537
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2024
537 points (92.0% liked)
Technology
59740 readers
2537 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
im not going to lie this is one of the stupidest things ive ever seen a major tech company do
I used to think the Windows key was the stupidest. I mean I still do but I used to, too.
I do find the super key really useful actually, for binding hotkeys for my window manager. But a key for some voice assistant is really dumb.
This. I'm used to using extra keys (like the menu key or Capslock) for chording macros and personal shortcuts. In fact I get gaming keyboards with the customizeable keys (usually perma-bound — perma-binded? — to ctrl-, -2, -3, -4, -5 respectively) so they can be easily trapped and redirected to common macros.
I think the Super key was developed on the same principle.
People joke that the editor Emacs' name is an acronym for Edit Meta Alt Ctrl Super (all the modifiers but Shift on a very complex keyboard of the past) since it uses modified keystrokes for most of its functions, though really only Ctrl and Meta
Never saw the point given that you could already set chord combinations of Shift, Ctrl and Alt to give more hotkeys than you are likely to remember.
Well, that is one advantage, that it's somewhat easier to remember Super+P than Ctrl+Alt+P.
But of course, it's also just a key which likely won't conflict with keyboard shortcuts used in applications. By convention, Super is only used for OS-level shortcuts.
If the Windows key didn't exist, Ctrl Alt would work just as well and wouldn't require anything else to remember because all OS level shortcuts would be Ctrl Alt shortcuts that wouldn't conflict with any applications.
Using Ctrl Alt would also be faster and more accessible because they are on the right and left instead of the current Super key (Windows) being only on the left.
Sometimes a key gets bound in all regular modifiers so you really need another one.
For example I use Super+F for fullscreen because Ctrl+F, Alt+F and Ctrl+Alt+F are all taken in this or that program.
Oh and btw the right-hand Alt is usually AltGr not regular Alt for non-English countries, it's used for composing diacritics.
Pedantic point but of the major English QWERTY layouts, US has two Alts, UK has AltGr on the right
It doesn't matter what it says on the key, it gets mapped to AltGr so it can't be used as Alt.
i have a keyboard that has the super key on both sides, next to alt gr
I have been using key shortcut chaining in my WMs for freeing up more application hotkeys and also make them easier to remember. And it it still quite fast.
Starts them off by Ctrl+T, then for example: A (Audio) - [P, Pause; N; Next; V, Volume] R (Run) - [B, Browser; I, Inkscape; S, Spotify; Q, SQL editor]
And a lot more. The mnemonics helps me remember them, and Ctrl+T, R, B is quick enough to launch a browser.
It's somewhat useful for some keyboard shortcuts that literally could be replaced with a different key but yeah it's somewhat silly on its own. This will be downright stupid.
Yup like that and C for copilot or that and V for clipboard history to name a couple.
So why do we need a button if windows already mapped copilot to Windows + C.
It's hardly the most stupid thing it's basically just replacing the windows key that you never press with a different key that you've never press.
Is it replacing the windows key or is it in addition to the windows key? I use the windows key for a few different shortcuts.