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submitted 10 months ago by DevCat@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution.

The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons.

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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

He'll go on record saying it was "just a joke" and all his smug braindead followers will claim his sense of humor is too refined for us to understand properly. This really is the timeline where Biff Tannen won...

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago

And then about 4 days later, he /will be assassinated/, and then all the chuds will switch to 'We were joking about joking about it, moron!', just as we have watched essentially the vast majority of chuds essentially joke about Nazis so hard, for so long, that they simply became them.

I hate this idiots, for one they have no concept of humor or what being funny entails, for two, uh, they are Nazis.

[-] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

just as we have watched essentially the vast majority of chuds essentially joke about Nazis so hard, for so long, that they simply became them

That's not what happened, the impulse was there just ironic nazi posts made them feel comfortable enough to act their true selves, and when they saw how many other of them there were, it became a movement.

There have been cryptofascist families in the U.S. since forever, many hollywood and financial elite openly supported the nazis and they raised their families in the same stripe on the down-low and we are seeing the 3rd and 4th generational results now.

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are correct, the impulse was always there.

Unfortunately the vast majority of my online former 'friends' spent over a decade 'joking' about this, eventually devolving into just gaslighting, bullying and exploiting me in many ways.

I am basically still recovering from their abuse and the sort of shock of finally realizing how awful they are after years of being told that I was 'being hyperbolic' and other things.

Hilariously, the vast majority of my former real life 'friends' are basically fake hypocrite leftists who all ended up defrauding me financially, giving me covid twice despite being driven to depression and neurotic break downs over how concerned they were about it, and constantly woke scolding me over whatever social justice issue twitter now told them to care about as I am working at a non profit helping the homeless, being actually trained in how different cultures work differently and you know actually engaging with the people that I am /apparently/ being insensitive to, having good relations with all of them as I am actually working to make meaningful difference in their lives.

So I am a bit scrambled as to how to accurately and succinctly describe social interactions with anyone I have ever known.

Anyway, hah yeah if you want a fascist American dynasty family, look no further than the Bushs. Prescott Bush literally started and operated a front bank, before and during WW2, that just money laundered tons of funds from other wealthy Americans into the actual literal Nazi party in Germany, essentially bankrolling Hitlers rise to power.

[-] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I believe nearly zero of the words you have written and once I'm done checking your post history, I'm pretty sure I'll be justified in my judgment.

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hrm, ok then. Glad youre just admitting you are jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what you are talking about.

Theres nothing quite like having the events of my life be summarily rejected as unbelievable because someone basically gets bad vibes and needs to do a full diagnostic vibe check.

[-] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In the real world people's reputation are part of how the community views their interactions.

The same is needed in online communities otherwise bad actors creep in and shift the discussion for ulterior purposes.

Like you for example.

Post histories give you that sense of reputation, because a binary karma count is a basically worthless gauge of a person's ability and tendency to meaningfully contribute.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

My god, I hope nobody actually tries it. The worst part is that it's lose/lose. Fail, and Trump will ride the "someone tried to kill meeeee" train all the way back to the WH. Succeed, and congratulations, you've handed a cult the martyr they needed.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I don't know that you can say that a legal argument is just a joke. Although he just says random shit and half of it makes no sense, so who knows?

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I mean, it's not something he himself said, so they don't even really need to do that.

Basically, what happened was his lawyer was arguing that the only remedy for official actions taken by a president is impeachment; they can't be prosecuted in court aside from that.

The judge said "a president ordering seal team 6 to assassinate a rival is an official act, yes?" Trump's lawyer said "He'd quickly be impeached for that!", then when pressed more, something about Marbury v Madson presupposing something or other, then finally when pressed for a yes or no as to whether he'd be immune from prosecution, said "qualified yes".

The whole exchange is pretty bad and worth a listen.

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