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is this and this only: supporting the status quo, but disagreeing on minor points, so that while receiving the plaudits than go along with holding the majority opinion, they can feel (somewhere in their pathetic TV-poisoned minds) that they are "brave" and "intelligent." It is the ancient gambit used by every would-be intellectual who desires to to be popular as well: "Yes, I agree with you all, but not for precisely the same reasons. Would you perhaps like to hear what I think?" These words, when spoken aloud, are always in that back-of-the-throat drawl which, in American English, signifies considered thought and long acquaintance with books, and of course a string of letters at the end of one's name.

Thus we get the typical liberal position on anything. "I sympathize with the Palestinians, and the policies of the Israeli government are certainly to be criticized, but all civilized people should denounce Hamas because nothing justifies terrorism!" Or: "Yes, Ukraine has a problem with corruption, and there is a troubling right-wing element in their military, but we still need to side with them because Russia is much worse!" Always there is the ghost of an acknowledgement that the situation is complex -- a cheap rhetorical trick -- and then doubling down on the socially acceptable position. The ultimate in this stupid game is the invocation of an equally stupid phrase, "two things can be bad at once, mkay?" -- which always means in practice that the side America supports is actually the less bad of the two ostensible evils.

Hence we "tankies" are always accused, by liberals, of having for great revolutionaries of the past a wholly uncritical admiration. This is manifestly false, for nearly every discussion among Marxist-Leninists at some point devolves into a picking apart of historical minutiae, with the goal of finding what Mao or Stalin or Honnecker did right or wrong. We are one of the few political groups that does not spare our heroes. But when liberals ask us to approach Mao with "nuance," what they mean is: admit Mao was a bloodthirsty tyrant who ate babies for breakfast and never brushed his teeth, but he also ended footbinding. Hence the historical record is "complicated." We Marxists, of course, will not engage in such asinities, and we state openly that Mao's successes far outnumber and outweigh his mistakes. For liberals, who are at root historical nihilists, this is unacceptable, and why? Because we refuse to play the game, but also because them out in their silly attempts at pandering and social climbing.

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[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

For liberals, nuance is just an excuse to avoid dealing with harsh realities. Because they subscribe to the embodiment of the political ideology of capital, this does indeed mean supporting the status quo - insofar as it's aligned with the local dominant form of capital. They will not find "nuance" when it comes to special economic zones in China where the capitalist mode of production is active. They're not defending that status quo. China is the enemy of their ideology and so it must be reduced through orientalism and being gullible about any and all propaganda leveled at them. In fact, being "nuanced" on China, to a liberal, just means picking a less ridiculous but still entirely false and simplistic criticism of it. Maybe they don't know anything about Xinjiang so they discard the US State Department talking points on it to talk about safety nets at Foxconn. Maybe they don't know anything about trade or imperialism so they discard those criticisms to pearl clutch about Taiwan.

To liberals, nuance is just a way to feel smart by saying something is complicated so they don't need to take a strong stance on it, and perish the thought of criticizing the fundamentals of their ideology.

When you present liberals with actual nuance, such as a thorough historical understanding or a rationale for critical support, they lose their shit, start calling you names, and generally act like babies. Unfortunately this is also all part of the radicalization process lol.

[-] john_zorn@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

The truth has a very liberal, educated bent. Because I'm educated I just summed up your overly long post in very few words.

[-] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Is this you unironically proclaiming yourself to be very smart by creating an incorrect summary?

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