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Precisely my point. Art style of a game does not influence it's gameplay and vice-versa. The original claim was "bad art = bad gameplay", and I'm pointing out that DF has an undeniable bad art and an undeniable good gameplay.
I know this might blow your mind, but different people have different opinions and that's ok.
Yes, but if you're opinion is A means B and you agree that there's an example of A where not B, you're either stupid, hypocrite or trolling.
He claimed bad graphics means bad gameplay, agreed that DF has bad graphics, and agreed that it has good gameplay, therefore his original point is wrong by his own standard because he agrees that there's a game that has bad graphics but good gameplay, therefore not all games that had bad graphics have bad gameplay. I really can't simplify it any more.
If his opinion was that DF had shitty gameplay or good graphics then it's subjective, and we could have a subjective discussion about those points, but because he agreed to that the original point is logically wrong.