Basically title. I waited on installing F droid for a long time because my phone threw many scary warnings when I tried a long time ago. But now I have it, and I got some fossify apps, but since there is no "Editor's Picks" on F- droid I dont really know where to go from here.

What apps do you recommend I install first to remove my dependence on closed ecosystems?

What is my vulnerability surface ie, which sort of apps should I watch out for?

Are there any bad faith companies in the open source sphere?

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[+] uuhhhhmmmm@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Obtanium too, but I can't figure out how to install apps that are hosted on GitLab.

What do you have to change in Obtanium?

Here's Mull, for example: https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/mull-fenix

[–] mea_rah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That specific repository has no releases so it won't work AFAIK. You need a repository with releases, that have apk attached. (Typically the developer would set up a CI workflow to build and attach apk for every release)

Edit: For example AuroraStore has releases with apks. So you can just enter gitlab repo for AuroraStore into Obtainium and it will install it and keep it updated.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any benefit over just downloading the APK directly without managing it through Obtanium? I ask cause I'm guessing that for Mull, since there are no releases on its GitLab repo, it'll just have to be downloaded directly.

[–] mea_rah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Obtainium will check regularly for new versions and update automatically. So that's definitely a benefit if you'd like to keep the apps updated.

As for Mull, you could add its f-droid link into Obtainium if you'd like to have all updates via a single app.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh wait so its going to be lesser hassle the sooner I move to Obtainium?

[+] uuhhhhmmmm@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks for the detailed answer. It seems prudent to install from Obtainium.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll offer a counterpoint to all the Obtainium fans here: F-Droid is good and "middlemen" aren't always pointless.

F-Droid enforces their own inclusion standards on every app they build. This mainly ensures that all apps are built from source and are 100% free (libre) software. When you "go outside the middleman" and "go directly to the source" you lose that assurance.

I don't think it's worth it for slightly faster updates. I enjoy knowing that I have the four freedoms with every app I install.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me more about these four freedoms

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms:

The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).

The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2).

The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

- What is Free Software? - The GNU Project

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the explanation.

[–] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For some it's a trust issue since they F-droid is a middleman however with reproducible builds I don't have that worry. Feels like a good thing to have the code verified twice. I have obtainium as well but had issues with some beta apps I wanted to use like organic maps. Obtainium only works if it is the way it's setup. Organic maps did not follow obtainiums way

Also to use obtainium you actually need to know the app exist, I have a lot of stuff from F-droid I would not have found without it

[–] Disonantezko 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If your new, just install and use Droidify (is a lot faster than F-droid).

Now I use:

Obtanium 4 things that aren't in F-droid or prefer faster update (like Newpipe).

[–] nameisnotimportant@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel very dumb but I just installed it and I don't get the logic: do I have to enter every app into Obtainium to make it happen or is there some kind of auto discovery / import that I can use?