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Let's say children were sent to the factories to bake and package the cookies instead of going door to door selling them and they were given 22% of a regular workers salary. Would that be exploitation? I'm sure it would be ok if the other 54% were spent on a fun pizza party at the end of the day.
If I hold a bake sale to raise funds for GLAAD, are all the people who bake goods for it slaves? Seems like the same as your scenario.
I guess we should stop raising funds for anything because it's all slave labor.
I think it's possible to raise funds for something without exploiting children.
I see, so it's only exploitation if children raise money for a cause. If adults do it, it isn't exploitation.
Why?
Both can be exploitation, as an adult you shouldn't want your children exposed to that kind of exploitation. Just because others are exploited doesn't make it right for you to exploit others especially if they are children. Capitalism encourages you to sell your labor so others can profit from it, and I don't just me financially. They will try and skim from the labor of children to benefit the brand or the organization. A kid having a bake sale is a different story if done through their own labor and initiative. They can put up the investment and keep all the profits to do with as they choose instead of several organizations scraping 75% of the rewards.
The girls themselves 'profit' from it by funding activities. They aren't being forced to do it either. No one in my daughter's troop was forced to be there. No one was forced to sell cookies. No one was shamed if they didn't sell cookies. Selling cookies is never even suggested to be required in order to be a Girl Scout.
If you can show me evidence of a large number of Girl Scouts being forced to sell cookies against their will, go for it. But doing something of their own free will so that they can do things like take a trip to the zoo sure doesn't sound like exploitation to me.
Also... "several organizations" do not scrape 75% of the rewards. That is just false. 76% goes to the Girl Scouts of America and 24% goes to the cookie bakers. I assume you don't think the cookie bakers should bake cookies for free or that the Girl Scouts shouldn't be funding themselves, so who is scraping this 75%?
I guess we can agree to disagree here. I'm not going to keep arguing with someone who thinks child labor is fine and dandy.
Ah, got it, I'm fine with child labor.
At least you didn't call me an abusive parent like another person here I guess...