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Beeper drops iMessage integration after Apple bans linked Macs (www.androidcentral.com)
submitted 7 months ago by askat@programming.dev to c/android@programming.dev
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  • Beeper says that it received and verified reports of 30 users of Beeper Cloud or Mini that had their Macs banned from using iMessage by Apple.
  • Apple Support says the Macs were banned from accessing iMessage due to "spam."
  • Beeper has disabled new iMessage connections to Beeper Cloud, and it's unclear when or if functionality might return.
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[-] ericjmorey@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

I'd say both Apple and Google are creating barriers. A common form of communication, sending a picture or video, is a degraded experience due to Apple.

I've been able to convert several people to use signal because of that limitation.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

IMessage App without iMessage Service functions exactly the same as MMS functioned on pre-iPhone devices. There isn’t any “degraded experience” unless you consider a different coloured bubble, and no E2E encryption to be degraded experience.

[-] ericjmorey@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

exactly the same as MMS functioned on pre-iPhone devices.

We don't live in the past. Apple's decisions degraded the experience compared to what was already common outside of iMessage and non-iMessage intercommunication.

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Th iMessage app does support RCS, which is the current bleeding edge, it just doesn’t support E2E encryption.

The thing is, unless it can vouch for the security of the keys, any product that doesn’t control the entire stack End-to-End doesn’t really support true E2E.

This is one of the drawbacks/benefits of the Fediverse. Since it is not possible to encrypt ActivityPub messages and still have them accessible, Mastodon doesn’t not offer any sort of guarantees of privacy.

As certain political individuals are finding out, Xitter’s claims and insinuations of privacy and discretion are only as secure as a legal subpoena. WhatsApp and Meta’s platforms have the same weekness. Apple’s architecture of iMessage (protocol) was designed so that (unless you backup to iCloud), your messages are truely E2E.

I don’t know enough about Googles implementation of E2E RCS to know how encrypted it is, I assume that if you are running a Pixel, and your recipient also has a Pixel, it should be fine, as long as you haven’t rooted your phone.

[-] entropicdrift 1 points 7 months ago

Could you do me a favor and point to where Apple announced that RCS is live on iMessage?

Last I checked they announced that they were merely planning to support it sometime this year.

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