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What's America's view on this Tucker Carlson?

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[-] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 214 points 10 months ago

"Sooner or later this will end in agreement," was Putin's message, arguing that Nato was coming to realise that defeating Russia on the battlefield would be impossible.

Does Putin realize that NATO is effectively fighting Russia with both arms tied behind it's back right now? We're funding Ukraine (who are doing a phenomenal job, fwiw), but we're not even giving them the top of the line hardware. If the US actually got involved, Russia would pretty much instantly lose any glimmer of air superiority they have, and Ukraine could advance all the way to Moscow under NATO air cover. Like, the only reason Russia still exists is because NATO hasn't even tried to fight Russia on the battlefield yet.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 176 points 10 months ago

NATO isn't even fighting. NATO gave Ukraine their old boxing gloves and some advice.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And we're learning that a teenager with a drone can be hilariously effective against modern weapons.

So is Russia. Except Russia is learning how to combat the kids with drones too. They're gaining invaluable battlefield experience that NATO troops simply aren't.

Reports vary from side to side, from showing that Russians are curb stomping Ukraine to Ukraine is holding it's own. So, sure, NATO tossing the kid gloves to Ukraine and putting up a fight is comforting, but it isn't the whole picture. Russia wins a war of attrition. NATO is made up of democracies and war fatigue sets in fast when it's someone else's war. Russia is a de facto fascist dictatorship with deep oil pockets. The only thing that turns their troops around is the head of state dying, or a massive coup. Reports of ether being imminent seem to be rather premature.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 22 points 10 months ago

War attrition sets in much slower when you're not at war.

Yes, my government is sending some old equipment and dedicating 10% of the military budget (which is like 2% of the total spending) to help Ukraine.

That is much less shocking than "Dave from school came back without a leg, and my cousin John didn't come back at all".

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago

They're gaining invaluable battlefield experience that NATO troops simply aren't.

Oh, yes they are. Ukraine is in close contact with NATO countries and sharing intel. NATO countries are also buying drones in bulk right now. And developing ones that Russia will not see until they try to pick a fight with NATO.

[-] Poach@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

How do you feel about Russia's deep oil pockets now that Ukraine is going after their refineries and porta? Do you think Russia can continue to advance or hold ground while also defending large swaths of the western part of Russia? Genuinely curious

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

NATO is Doc and Ukraine is Little Mac. Vodka Drunkinski doesn't stand a chance.

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