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When Al-Qaeda themselves claimed responsibility, even with overwhelming evidence aside? Why were so many people still reluctant, I was researching about this stuff and was shocked to see people who I respect a lot believe in this

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

I think you need to reassess these people you respect a lot. Belief in 9-11 conspiracy theories is not common.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The Venn Diagram overlap between anti-vaxxers, 9-11 'truthers', and flat earthers is nearly a circle

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Some would call them "independent thinkers"

What's more admirable, to conform and be right or to think independently and be wrong?

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think the weaponization of ignorance is a more nuanced subject than a binary choice.

There is no merit in pushing significantly disproven 'theories' like flat earthism.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No doubt. But dang, when they call themself right because they quote the most popular authority, I feel a strong impulse to play it wrong.

I mean, I'd push flat-eartherism just to highlight the absurdity of the popular epistemology. But that's generally a pearls-before-swine situation.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Funny you mention that, there is a Flat Earth society that was started as a joke with members just arguing for fun.

They were mostly all replaced by true believers by the late 90s, I got to watch it happen.

And it plays out the same way in so many 'ironic stupidity' forums.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

The true believers have more zip than the careful contemplators, unfortunately.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

This is a flaw in human nature that needs to be resolved before we move forward as a species.

It is no longer a survival benefit to follow loud, angry people.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I dunno man. The ugly sciencey guy is a hard sell. There's gotta be a third option.

Smiling grandfather in nice suit? Sexy fascist lady? Furry?

It's all theater anyway. The mob does not respond to reason.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think Bill Nye gives us the best template: A kind of sciency guy with a background in media production.

The mob doesn't respond to reason but it loves to be entertained, which is why we need more science communicators.

We need a Bob Ross for STEM.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Or we could just do what's proven to work.

One lie-spewing puppet for the people who like vanilla. Another for those who prefer chocolate. Maybe a third for those strawberry-loving weirdos.

We want to keep them (the oblivious masses) marching in the right direction. That's all. Truth is utterly beside the point.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Is everyone from lemm.ee deranged?

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Spoken like a good, right-thinking citizen. You clearly consume only the most truthful of news-streams.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The projection is delicious, you have no idea where I get my info from.

But I bet dollars to donuts that you have newsmax on your bookmarks bar.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago

Ok

Spoken like a bad, wrong-thinking citizen. You clearly consume only the most dishonest of news-streams.

Better?

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You don't need my approval to post, my dude.

Telling how you didn't comment on the Newsmax part.

[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

I honestly don't even know what a "newsmax" is. Is that the "bad" news stream?

Just out of curiosity, what's the "good" news stream?

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

No single stream, that's the point. Everyone has a bias and only comparing different perspectives can you approach something objective.

Every forum becomes enshittified over a few years so there is no single place you can go anymore with even a hint of objectivity.

See everything and think for yourself and wonder why people are spending so much energy convincing you their bias is correct.

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