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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 70 points 8 months ago

Protip: instead of being up front about your views, pretend to be frothingfash, then refuse to convict.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 71 points 8 months ago

Yeah seriously if you ever can be on a jury it's basically your civic duty (just realized civic is a palindrome holy fuck) to lie your ass off, play the straight-faced centrist-minded lib-pilled American and get on that jury. Now obviously if the person is a fucking murderer, rapist, etc. and there's convincing evidence then, you know. But if it's something like theft by a non-white collar person or feeding the fucking homeless or punching a cop during an unjustified arrest. Just sit there, nod, and vote not guilty for however long it takes to break the other poor bastards or get a mistrial. Just never ever utter the words jury nullification or express that you are non guilty because the law and punishments are unjust. Just say anything else. "Not enough evidence for me. Sorry." Only takes one person per twelve on the jury for the criminal trial to get gummed up.

I wonder what a centrist type would even say to get favorable status from prosecution and defense in this case. It feels almost too binary between "liquify the homeless" and "we should give them homes and fix the broader societal issues that cause homelessness." I guess a centrist would be like "I just don't want to see it myself" so ok with people feeding them and also ok with cops sweeping tents and forcefully removing the people to jail or just somewhere else. I guess the stance of "I don't like that homelessness exists, and I understand why people feel sympathy and want to help, but laws exist for a reason and should be enforced." That feels pretty much perfectly lib-coded enough. They love acknowledging horrific things and then immediately shoving the shield of "but the law" in front of any moral action they might otherwise do.

The first rule of jury nullification is you don't talk about jury nullification

The second rule of jury nullification is... you don't fucking talk about it

[-] Rashav3rak@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago

I got to do this once. I look like the type a prosecutor would probably want on a jury and I wasn't individually asked any questions before being chosen. The case was a non-violent drug offense and it was a wild experience for reasons I won't get into. Once we got in the jury room it pretty much went like:

"Not guilty."

"Why not guilty? It's a pretty clear cut case."

"I don't believe the cops."

"Why don't you believe the cops?"

"I didn't find their testimony credible. It didn't convince me beyond a reasonable doubt."

"What about the body cam footage? Do you believe that?"

"I didn't find it convincing."

"The whole thing is on camera, do you think they faked it all?"

"I suppose that's a possibility. I just haven't seen enough evidence to convict."

"What more evidence could you need?"

"More than this. I'm not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt."

And around and around we went like that. I was the lone holdout. I have to say, the other jurors were pretty cool about it. Eventually we had to tell the judge we couldn't reach a verdict on any of the charges and it was declared a mistrial. Totally worth it.

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