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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago

Slave markets in Libya... hmm I wonder which country killed the previous multi decade leader throwing it into destabilization

Kinda hilariously ironic to bring that up when trying to deflect blame from Europeans for slavery

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 months ago

That's the most 1980s/1990s coded right wing "you'll never take my automatic rifles, ATF pig motherfuckers!" guy I've seen outside of historical footage in at least two decades

I thought all those guys went extinct after the FBI kinda just said "fuck it, let's just arrest and harass Muslims" after 9/11

Glad(?) to see they live on

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago

In the specific example of Zionism and young Jewish people, it is directly in their material interests to fully "buy in" on Zionism. Free land, free homes, subsidies... the price for admission is only your soul.

For liberals in walls: This applies to American colonists all the way back and, in a different sense, still applies today. All the "free land" is claimed now, but the descendants of those who stole land have profited greatly in a personal way. Thus it directly against the material interests of a large portion of white Americans to ever question much less oppose the status quo in the USA. This is not yet the case fully in Israel, but as they steal more Palestinian land (Gaza annexation seems fairly imminent. Not being a pessimist, just... I mean, look what Israel is doing and saying) they will also grow a population that moves from material interests being conquering land (early USA colonies and America broadly equivalent) to defending and demanding a never changing status quo where ever ceding "Israeli" land (or, likely, it'll be framed cynically as "Jewish land") is fully off the table- as it is now in the USA, Canada, etc.

I don't think blame has anything to do with it, basically. If that's the word you want to apply, then ok. But Zionists in Israel or with family there are acting primarily on material interests backed up secondarily with ideology that proclaims them to be righteously stealing land and wealth. (Same as other colonial societies)

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Election 2028:

Trump runs for term 3 "for the meme"

The democrats put up that zoomer that thought Russia was still the USSR and Communist (Frost? I think his name name is)

Trump runs on promising to personally execute, live on tv, all the feds he fired over the past four years after the democrats say they will rehire them all.

The democrat runs on... restoring NATO... and promises to immediately declare war on Russia

I hang myself in my closet

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Crazy that the "Ukraine" country account would even take the time to give this a thought considering their ongoing situation.

Like, just being real, they are currently in "there are massively bigger things to deal with right now" territory as a nationstate. If I ran that account and was physically in Ukraine I'd be spending my "shitposting" time shitposting my way out of there to literally anywhere else. Just filling out visa applications to random countries everyday.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Thanks for that

Yeah, that summary basically aligns with my understanding of how the extermination of the natives worked

(Replied to myself somehow the first time...)

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is AMD woke because their CEO is (or was) a woman?

Anyway, reddit is reactionary as fuck, but it does kinda seem like the "OMG YOURE SO WOKE" shit is dying off finally.

When the far right wasn't literally holding all the power they could make some believable attempt at whining that the "wokies" were making everything bad.

Now even the dumbest of the dumdums has to contend with the reality that "Well, Trump pretty effectively "unwokified" the fed government." All the "woke" social media companies dropped their pro-LGBTQ+ and pro-inclusion stuff too.

Yet eggs are still like $8/dozen. Housing is still unaffordable for millions of people, mostly "young" people (under like 40). The price of, I dunno, commodities like consumer GPUs has still not returned to a pre-covid normal (and never will- due to policy from their favorite God Emperor)

Perhaps eventually they'll shift from petty manufactured grievances to "real shit." I'm not holding much hope of that happening any time soon. It'll probably take them not having a house for stuff to kick in. Since Americans are just that selfish. "If it doesn't directly affect me or my family then, meh 🤷‍♂️" pretty much explains the actions and thoughts of 99% of hoglets. Trump seems to be trying his hardest to force the material conditions upon the hoggery to cause change. I don't think that change will be positive... but he's definitely doing something their porcine minds.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Is there a source for that $300 per Native American claim?

Not that I doubt the US gov would pay for such bounties, of course they did, it's just $300 in 1877 is like... a fuckload. It's hard to exactly calculate due to the gold standard being abandoned and even if you arrive a direct calculation with inflation and everything factored in there it still doesn't tell the whole story. Like $3000/yr in 1960 could provide for a household in NYC. It's only like $30K/yr with inflation and obviously you need like 3-4x that to live comfortably in NYC. So the dollars are sort of irrelevant if you don't factor in every piece of cost of living (something liberals/conservatives do all the time when you bring up wages, but that's too much off on another topic)

Anyway, apparently $300 in 1877 is equivalent to about $9000 in today's money. That seems like an entire year's salary back then.

I don't intend this to be callous or insensitive, but I would assume there would be so many bounty hunter assholes bringing in villages of dead natives that it would destroy the US government to pay that much out. Like these settlers were doing a full scale holocaust in the western states at that point with bodies piling up.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago

They act like Afghanistan didn't shift into Ukraine immediately

If Ukraine is ended, there will be something to replace it

Not to mention, capital flows across the world. As the US empire continues to wind down, capitalists will be more than happy to invest anywhere they can make money. Capital fled Europe to the US before. It stands to reason it will (or already is/has) flee to Asian in whatever form.

The CIA stuff only holds up insofar as the executive or those in charge are actively defying the wishes of capital(ists) not so much whatever random warhawks on Fox and MSNBC are hyping up this week, month or year. If Trump sat down with the biggest capitalists (and he has the richest assclown in the world as his sort of "shadow president" currently- so, yes, he has sat down with them plenty) and they said "you can nix Ukraine. We have plans in..." where ever. Then that's what's happening. Or maybe Trump is bucking their wishes- for the moment. But they know they can rope him into another conflict so they don't care. Let the losing narrative die and move on to something fresh.

There's honestly too many unknowns for anyone not at his cabinet meetings or in his bed at night watching his little fingers text back and forth to "know" the full situation. If the libs truly believe that the president of the US isn't ultimately bound by the wishes of the ultra wealthy capitalists, well, I want to try some of the crack they're on.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago

The 1990s-famously known for BiH having a GREAT time! Definitely no wars during the breakup of Yugoslavia that resulted in multiple genocides (many unrecognized officially, but horrific mass murders no matter how you slice it)

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

A decade+ ago you would be correct

Unfortunately due to Kermit the fucking Frog (Peterson), and others in right wing areas online, this type of "The Soviets were actually worse than the Nazis!" shit has become far, far more widespread than I would've thought possible a decade ago. Americans and even now Western Europeans have rewritten history... the implications are "pretty fucking bad" to put it lightly.

 

Good recommend from the ol' YouTube algo

Someone made a super cut of Matt talking about Biden's senility back in like 2019, 2020 and onward.

It's a reminder that we were and are being gaslit by the DNC/media in general. No, it was not "Trump campaign talking points" to realize that Biden's brain was already halfway mush in 2020. You weren't on crazy pills. You were right. And here's proof.

This is almost therapeutic in a weird way. Sometimes the constant gaslighting starts seeping in and you just gotta go back and double check like "they are all just liars, right? Yes... yes... ok."

 

Obama Tells Allies Biden Needs to Reconsider His Re-Election Bid, WaPo Reports

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that Joe Biden's path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the U.S. president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, the Washington Post reported on Thursday, citing multiple people briefed on Obama's thinking.

(Reporting by Rami Ayyub)

 

Obama Tells Allies Biden Needs to Reconsider His Re-Election Bid, WaPo Reports

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that Joe Biden's path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the U.S. president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, the Washington Post reported on Thursday, citing multiple people briefed on Obama's thinking.

(Reporting by Rami Ayyub)

 

So I live in PA. I got one of those online polls. The questions were actually cooking Biden so hard that I felt like I needed to share. I tried to answer everything in the most "fuck both Trump and Biden" way possible.

Some of these are "a lot" to read and I didn't crop these because lazy.

Just thought some of you weirdos would enjoy seeing the polling questions those of us in "states that actually matter" are being asked right now.

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YouTube has definitely taken notes 🤓 on my hatred for Jerry. I've been a longtime hater of him, but then again, who hasn't? Him and his wife's pro-genocide bullshit has just been a tank load of fuel on a simmering resentment.

Anyway, Uncle Sam at The Majority Report had on a person who read an excerpt from an old 1993 Seinfeld book called... goddamnit. Called "SeinLanguage"

Alright so moving on from that.

It has some rather disturbing descriptions of apparently how Jerry's mind works. I don't want to overly spoil it because the shock of hearing what he wrote and chose to publish for the world is... well, it's pretty gross. Also wholly expected from him.

Also, I can only assume this is what he means by now days people are too "woke." "Oh you can't be a pedo anymore! So woke!" And "Wow, Michael Richards can't even yell the n word on stage at black people! So woke!"

It's funny how it's never the bad/evil behaviors themselves that are the problem, like funding fascist thugs to beat student protesters. It's saying "Jerry Seinfeld is an unfunny, privileged, stuck up, asshole that funds fascists"... which is the problem.

 

Last week, Will, Felix, and Bryan talked about the atrocity that is the new Jerry Seinfeld brainchild "Unfrosted." A shitty movie about poptarts. I guess. Haven't seen it, and I don't plan on it!

In the episode at one point Bryan (IIRC) talks about Gottfried going on Howard Stern's show and doing a spot on impression of Jerry for a long time and having it record onto Seinfeld's personal home voicemail tape recorder (this was in the 90s I believe).

Well, thanks to the creepy YouTube algo, here you go. This was in my mental backlog of "things I want to search for, but will never remember to actually do so." Thanks, Google. (Unironically for once)

It's a pretty humorous little bit. Gottfried's impression was dead on like Bryan said. Them mocking Jerry about stuff he actually whines about (like people eating at his shows) is gold though. I wish someone would ask Jerry about this and see if he reacts at all. Maybe Bill Burr can throw it in one of his little jabs he takes at people. Jerry would probably be fuming but unable to say anything because then he'd be the "poor sport" or whatever.

Anyway, fuck Jerry Seinfeld. I hope Gottfried is haunting him somehow.

 

Most relevant portion, imo. Although the whole thing is very short.

Vladimir Putin has not said he wants to go march across Europe and take Europe, and the reality is Ukraine is not even a NATO member nation.

This is 100% true. Putin has not said he wants to march into any other countries. He hasn't even, to my knowledge, said he intends to take Kiev/western UA. Now obviously not everything has to be explicitly stated in order to be true, but if that's the case here, then surely they have evidence to indicate Russia plans to push into Poland, etc.

It’s quite a bold claim to make, considering that European countries in addition to Ukraine have made no secret that they fear Russia. For example, Germany, Poland, and France are discussing the revival of a decades-old alliance to strengthen their cooperation because of Russia. Sweden just joined NATO last month, following neighbor Finland’s accession to the alliance last year, over concerns Russia might try to invade them next. 

So Poland and some other nations' leaders have indeed made statements of fear about Russia invading. Is that evidence? No. It's worth considering though, I suppose, if I'm being the most charitable that I can be. Just fold it up, put it in a pocket in the back of your brain. "Poland thinks Putin wants to invade Poland." Ok. Filed away.

Countries reviving defense pacts and/or joining NATO might also indicate paranoia over Russia. Ok. But where the fuck is there any indication in a speech or actions that Putin intends to do more than he's publicly stated?

So, is Greene simply echoing Russian talking points? Several of her Republican colleagues in Congress have warned that Russian propaganda is influencing their constituents and politicians like Greene, following revelations last week of a vast Russian-backed corruption network in Europe. Belgium is even investigatingRussian interference in the European Parliament’s upcoming elections.

Debunked, for the most part, or at best over exaggerated claims of influence by Russia again. Ok. And in the EU parliament this time?!? My God! MEIN GOTT! SACRE BLEU! Pasta meatballio Deus! (dunno how Italians exclaim like that)

But even if there is Russian interference and propaganda, the implication here is what MTG said wasn't factually correct. The author never addresses the claim (that's the end of the article). They never provide proof or reason to believe Russia intends to go beyond Kiev. When you're talking about billions of US dollars, billions in US weapons and training, the standard of proof is absolutely fucking higher than "ohhh jaaaa Poland and Deutschland are ze scared of Pooteeen. Seend meesiles America! Danke!"

Even doing Devil's advocate shit I would've listed Russia going into Georgia, Crimea and now Ukraine to establish a pattern. Of course all of those countries (and whatever Crimea is... city state thing?) have some fundamental differences with Poland, Germany, etc. Maybe that's why the author decided against that point because it would get bogged down in massive jumps of "logic" to explain the argument? Easier to point to bullshit, repeat the line "Russia bad!", and expect us apes to get in line for our shit sandwiches.

I absolutely abhor MTG. She's a shit human, seems dumb as a rock, etc. But when someone is saying something plainly true, and some dishrag DNC article wants to complain about it without even properly arguing against her, just quote dumping a bunch of shit that adds up to "ok, and?", that's not journalism. It's ironically... just propaganda. American imperialist propaganda in this case.

 

(Before you read this just know it’s mostly a mundane recounting from my memory of a conversation with my mom. There isn’t some dramatic event or a real “point.” Reading it is almost assuredly a waste of your time.)

I got invited to (free) lunch with my family for my brother’s birthday. The price of admission is seeing my boomer-ass parents. I’ve just made it a point now, in my middle age, to annoy the shit out of them by pressing their buttons on politics. My dad basically totally disengages, and my mom will sit quietly until I’m done and then bring something else up. Classic move. Never works. I always go back. They’re my parents after all. If I have the right to press anyone in the world on their shitty politics, it’s them.

So, just to mess with my personal NSA agent, I may or may not change some dates and stuff. The overall information will remain intact.

My parents were both in the US military. I knew since I was a kid that my mom had spent some time in Israel before I was born. At least that was how I remembered it vaguely. “Mom was in Israel.” I always meant to ask her about her time there out of curiosity. Look, she’s in her 60s, a veteran, from the US south. We all know without asking that she supports Israel’s existence and probably everything they do. So I knew that if I wanted to get anything more than yelling at my mom for shit she did 40+ years ago I had to kinda “just ask questions.” Don’t purposely offer my opinions, just ask pointed questions and let her talk.

She told me she was stationed on the Sinai peninsula in Egypt in the mid-1980s. I always just thought she was “in Israel” so I asked her first:

“Egypt? Why? What did you do there?”

“I don’t know. Just drove a truck. A mail truck.”

“So you were in Egypt? Why was the US there? Were you working with the Israelis?”

“No, no. There were a bunch of soldiers from different countries there. The soldiers in the south were there for protection. I was support. (She was a truck driver basically from my understanding)” [I actually don’t know shit about this, so I need to look into it more at some point]

“Was this a remnant of the 1967 war?” [Just my in-the-moment thought]

She nodded “Yeah! Yeah that was why. Carter signed some agreement. All these countries agreed to defend the peninsula.”

“Oh, ok. So did you ever visit Israel then?”

“Oh yeah. I went all the time. It was beautiful there. I went and saw all the places from the Bible. I went to Bethlehem where Jesus was supposedly born…”

[I kinda cut in] “Nazareth? He’s called Jesus of Nazareth all the time.”

“Yeah, yeah. I went there too. I went to the wailing wall. You know what that is?”

“Yeah. I think that’s more important to Jews though. Do Christians really care about that?” [She didn’t really answer, so I started doing a little joke/bit] “I’m pretty sure Trump went there and did the prayers. I remember seeing him. “Look at the wall folks! The best walls.””

“Yeah, it was beautiful there. I’ve wanted to go back, but I couldn’t because of you.” [referring to my birth not long after]

“Did you go to the ancient city of Jerusalem?”

“Of course!” [This is the part that got actually a bit more interesting. Remember my mom is in her 60s.] “You know, they have all these border stations. They check your ID and they ask where you’re going. They all speak English there, you know. And they’re nice and they say “ok, go go” but you can’t just cross back and forth in certain areas.”

“Oh yeah. You know, some people in this country [me referring to the US] would get angry and debate you over what you just said. They say there are no checkpoints, that anyone can cross freely anywhere. Of course you can if you have a US passport or from Europe somewhere. Not the Palestinians though.”

She just kinda nodded. She didn’t disagree. I think she was in her mind and remembering back 40 years.

“Did you see the River Jordan?”

[she thinks for a moment] “No… no, I don’t think I ever went there.”

[Then she offered this other interesting, to me anyway, nugget from her memories] “I remember flying in one time late at night.”

“What airport?”

“uh… I don’t know.”

“The one in Gaza? It used to be there anyway”

[She didn’t respond to that, still thinking]

“it was an Israeli one?”

“Yeah. And there was supposed to be a driver to pick me up and take me. But no one was there, and it was so late at night. I remember I could see planes flying over to, it had to be, you know the Gaza Strip. You know? Where all the fighting is right now? And I could just hear the bombs far off.”

“Yeah. The Israelis are always bombing them. They won’t let them have… well, anything.”

After that she noticed my niece, her granddaughter, doing something cute and spent a long time taking pictures and showing me old pictures on her phone. But, as always, her son dragged her back to reality. I don’t remember what led up to this next conversation exactly, but, here it is.

“Trump is a dumbass. I will never vote for Biden either. He’s senile, you know. Did you see that funny report the other day?”

“Oh yeah. They’re both idiots and both losing their minds. Biden has no clue where he is half the time.”

“Yeah. I’m not voting for Trump. And I sure as hell ain’t voting for Biden either! That dumbass. I think I’ll vote for that Robert Kennedy if he’s still in by then.”

[Pretty sure I physically cringed at that statement]

“No! Don’t vote that for dumb- actually, you know what, who cares? Vote for whoever. They all suck.”

“I always liked the Kennedys anyway.”

“Well, they kinda all sucked, Mom. And RFK Jr. is somehow worse than his dad and uncle…”

“I don’t care. I’ll vote for him.”

“Ok. Whatever. I guess his dad [RFK, Sr.] got… a bit radicalized after his brother got killed by, well, I can’t say for certain, but like 99% sure the CIA had him killed.”

“Oh yeah. For sure. That was all a conspiracy. I think his bodyguard shot him.”

“Hmm. I dunno about all that, I think it may have been Oswald, why not, but the conspiracy is WHY was he killed not so much who actually shot him. I think the CIA definitely wanted him dead and had something to do with the whole thing. I mean why would this one single ex-marine, ex-defector want to kill the president? Why would he care that much? Maybe he was just deranged, but it doesn’t all add up.”

“He was just a patsy. Just like he said.”

“Yeah, for sure. Whatever happened it was what the CIA or FBI wanted. You know, the crazy thing is he was an American who defected to the USSR and then came back! No one does that! He had to have CIA ties to do that part alone. They would never allow anyone else to leave and come back like that after renouncing their citizenship. That one single piece of evidence alone proves to me that something was going on that they’ve never admitted to.”

“Yeah. They’d send him to prison probably.”

“Yeah, probably.”

[Somehow changed to this]

“You know who I feel bad for? Those people, not the Russians…you know…”

“The Ukrainians?”

“Yeah! I don’t like that Putin guy. He’s a jerk.”

“Yeah. Well, he’s there because of US meddling and destroying the USSR. So, we get what we deserve. We have to work with Putin now.”

[she didn’t acknowledge any of that]

“You know who I liked? Gorbachev.”

[I had to hold back a guffaw for real] “Gorbachev? Why? He’s the reason, well not like JUST him, but he’s one of the main reasons the USSR fell apart and why all this shit is going on in Russia and Ukraine. He’s why Putin is there. You said you don’t like Putin.”

[again, zero acknowledgement. I realized I was speaking in “Russian pro-Putin propaganda”, so I cut myself off to keep the talk going]

I don’t really remember the rest of it, and I’m tired of typing (holy fuck). I just saw my sister in law sort of staring or glaring, couldn’t tell which, at me. Probably thinking how I won’t be allowed around my niece when she’s older because I can’t stop talking about the most contentious shit possible at a birthday lunch thing. I am truly the crazy uncle.

I don’t know what my point was here. Maybe I’ll press my mom (and dad- a harder nut to crack) on more details about Egypt/Israel in the future. Mostly for my own knowledge. They’re old as hell and they’re gonna vote for conservatives either way. Although my parents are kind of oddballs, or maybe this is a normal position I don’t know, in that they both fucking hate Trump AND Biden. They would love to vote for, I assume, like a Reagan type guy. Now to me all of these people are effectively the same. Trump is just clown-makeup Reagan, but it’s weird that their libbed-up tendencies make him unappealing to them. Does this mean anything for the election? I dunno. I do live in a key swing state, so their votes do “matter.” Does it really matter if Biden/Trump wins though? I don’t personally think so. Not for my goals anyway.

 

This was during a Q&A after he spoke about Palestine years ago. You still see many liberals and so-called "leftists" (who are really just libs) crying like this girl. People act like fascists then cry when people call them what they are.

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