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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah, imma hard disagree. The Republicans aren't Liberals. The Republicans have embraced fascism and are actively trying to overthrow American Democracy. They just overturned roe v wade, they keep making workplaces less safe, our environment worse, consumer protections worse, they fight to repress trans rights, gay rights, etc. etc. Both sides are VERIFIABLY not the same, and I don't understand how you can feel they both are. Just because both sides are capitalist, doesn't make both sides liberal.

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Republicans are economic liberals. I'm saying they're capitalists. I didn't say both sides are the same. Both sides suck.

American democracy has been overthrown, if it ever existed. Remember citizens united? Corporate monopoly media dictates public opinions, the best-funded candidates win elections and then enact the policy of their donors instead of serving their constituents. This is the nature of bourgeois elections in a capitalist society. The purpose of fascism is to merge corporate and state power to suppress the working class, something that both capitalist parties are hard at work doing, and very well-accomplished.

For instance, both parties relentlessly raise the DoD budget because one of our countries' biggest incomes is the arms trade. This provides a massive perverse incentive for the US to destabilize countries. Another example is how the DNC corporation will throw their own candidates under the bus if they try to challenge the private health insurance industry.

In terms of some social issues, it may be slightly better in some ways if a democrat wins, or it may not as they managed to whiff on a few supreme court seats during and after the Obama admin. In terms of being a bombable civilian outside the US, it may very well be better if Trump wins, as he's more of a non-interventionist.

The real solution is the overthrowing of capitalism through revolution and the idea that social progress is being made through elections is a dangerous illusion. There are fundamental problems with the structure of the country, and the causes of those problems fund both parties. Liberals have a bad track record of averting emerging fascism, as was the case in Germany, and as is the case today with Biden funding Netanyahu's genocide.

[-] Intelligence_Gap@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

You understand your ideas have no influence if you don’t vote?

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You understand voting isnt the only form of political action?

[-] Intelligence_Gap@beehaw.org 0 points 8 months ago

I look forward to helping with those, assuming they’re non-violent, but if you aren’t voting your voice isn’t being heard by officials meaning you can’t influence change. Sorry if my previous comment came off as condescending that was not my intention.

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