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[-] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 6 months ago

You would find David Ellerman's work interesting. He provides strong arguments against capitalism and in favor of a worker coop market economy, and he also addresses the problem of capital allocation. I would recommend to you his book, The Democratic Firm. Here is a link to the book from the author's website: https://www.ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/DEMOFIRM.pdf @lemmyshitpost

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Out of curiosity what is this system you are describing called? I am guessing it's not truly socialism if it allows for entrepreneurship. I have to say I've not run into this exact system before. Would I be correct in thinking that unlike in market socialism it's possible to directly own parts of a business you don't work for or are a customer for?

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The system is usually called economic democracy because it democratizes the economic sphere. All firms in economic democracy are required to be worker coops. As a result, voting shares are exclusively held by those that are actually working the firm. Non-voting preferred stock can be free floating property rights that can be held by outside investors. it is democratic because only the people actually governed in the firm (i.e. workers) have voting rights over management

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Wouldn't that allow people to profit who put in no work? I think this becomes a moral issue on some level as I don't generally agree with people making money off of the work of others.

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 6 months ago

The payment to investors in this case isn't based on a non-worker solely appropriating the fruits of labor. The payment is satisfaction of the liability workers jointly appropriate as part of the negative product. Paying covers the costs of the negative product. It is compensation to the investors for the capital they supplied and the work they did building up that much capital @lemmyshitpost

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