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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

So whose body do you want to control based on your personal beliefs that aren’t very widely held and your gut feeling about situations that aren’t comfortable to you?

Liberty is an emotionally difficult stance. It’s bold and demands you permit that which you do not like. You seem to love the idea of holding that stance though you struggle with actually having it. You’re just a sparkling conservative

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

So when does the fetus get the rights to control their body?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

When it can live outside of another person’s body. Just like how no matter how much I want a kidney that you promised me if you decide that you are no longer willing to undergo surgery to give it to me, even if I’m already knocked out to receive it, you can back out. You are the ultimate master of your body, but so is everyone else.

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 months ago

Okay, so then you believe that a person has rights when they can survive outside of the woman. So then the humanity of a fetus depends on location of the mother because in some countries the fetus can be born much earlier due to medical technology. That is not a logical stance.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I believe that the fetus’s right to live doesn’t supersede a person’s right to not be pregnant. That is a logical and consistent stance.

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

Thats not a logical stance if you dont have a logical point at which the fetus gets rights.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

At no point is any person ever required to maintain using their body to keep someone else alive. If it’s your job and you don’t do it you may need professional consequences but never jail.

The fetus has rights but they all fall below that right of bodily autonomy.

[-] CableMonster@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago

That is what makes pregnancy a unique situation, another person is required to keep a fetus alive. If the fetus has the right of bodily autonomy, then the consensual act of making it was the consent to carry the fetus 9 months.

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