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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago

Last time I used my mandatory ID for a public transaction I actually had to use a webcam and held the card up to it and then my face so a human could check them.

Turns out, in a country where these have been in use for decades some people have put some thought into it. Go figure.

Of course now we have real time deepfakes and that is again obsolete, so we'll see where we go from here. I hope I don't have to bring my meatsuit to an actual office for routine tax transactions again, because that sucked and this is better.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -2 points 5 months ago

Last time I used my mandatory ID for a public transaction I actually had to use a webcam and held the card up to it and then my face so a human could check them.

Are you seriously unironically saying this is an example of "putting some thought into it"? That's literally this ludicrous idea that politicians had to verify the age of users visiting porn sites. It's nothing but invasive.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I'm saying that unironically. Depending on the transaction you're trying to make it can require a digital certificate you acquired previously in person, but it can also be human-verified in real time by checking your ID and matching it over videoconferencing.

The person checking my ID would have had to check my ID if I went to the office in person, too. Because, you kmow, they were gating my accessing my own private data. So remote human verification isn't "invasive", it's literally the same thing we would have done in person without the hassle of going to the office, which helps people who can't move around easily and during the pandemic it also kept everybody else safe.

It's fascinating how consistently the anglosphere assumes identifying yourself is an attack rather than a service. My ID has just as many protection features as my money, and that's how I want it, because my ID gates people being able to act in my name and access my records in a number of ways. Reliable, universal ID is a feature, not a bug.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -1 points 5 months ago

Because my biometric data is none of 99% of peoples business and should not be saved by anyone at all, neither state nor private company. And it is also none of people's business if I want to visit adult sites or services. There's literally non invasive methods to verify someone's identity & age too, but you think that somehow it is completely fine to expose yourself in front of a camera to someone. Might as well open up a profile on Chaturbate and expose some more. The only fascinating thing here is how little people give a shit about privacy nowadays. Honestly, just move to China with that kind of thinking. There you can see what those biometric databases are used for.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Eh... I think now you're having an argument with somebody in your head.

I don't care how you wank, friend. Wank away.

I showed my face over a webcam next to my official ID to access tax data or medical records. I sure expect identity to be verified for those things, on site or remotely. If your government is not checking your identity to access your private data, how the hell is that working? If you don't think the health care system should keep your medical records or the tax system should keep your tax records, how do you think those services can work?

Is this one of those things where you got angry about a thing once and now there is no room for nuance or compromise on it online? Because I get that people think privacy is important, but maybe it's time to just say out loud once that "privacy" doesn't mean "nothing I ever do leaves a trace anywhere, ever", which is an absurd statement.

[-] KiraKo@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

Could you explain what non invasive methods exist? Really would like to hear them.

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