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[-] hejsan@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

First USB-C, now this. The EU is doing the lord's work

[-] dystop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yup, they actually care about consumer protection.

[-] kittyinboots@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That’s nice. Pretty sure it won’t come to us.

[-] Panzer517@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Never say never, there is a big right to repair movement going on in this country right now.

[-] 51@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Your comment would be more useful if it included the country

[-] electriccars@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

America is the only country on the Internet is it not??? s/

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely never going to happen because this is the main way NSA spies on everyone. The device is never really off by design.

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, I like replaceable batteries and I try to repair everything I can that I own so that it lasts longer (I even replaced the battery in my wireless earbuds' case, doubling its lifetime so far), but swappable batteries have major downsides. Waterproofing is one, but a major thing is space. Sealed batteries don't need protection, but replaceable batteries do, and that increases their size by a lot. The last phones I've had probably couldn't even fit a replaceable battery inside of them how slim they are. So you either have to make phones much larger, or you have to reduce battery capacity. You also probably couldn't have metal backs and would have to return to plastic ones.

Some of these problems could be fixed but it'd make phones cost even more.

I don't know the answer to this, we should make phones more easily repairable, but I don't feel like this is the right way. Maybe mandating that phones can be repaired more easily by repair technicians and make the batteries more easily available. But I don't know how you could enforce that.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's gonna be easier to achieve than I believe, but I don't see how it's going to be possible without major downsides.

[-] Faendol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Heck yeah! I'm planning on getting a framework laptop when I next need an upgrade and if I get any input on the decision I'll be pushing for the corporate company I work at to adopt them. I'm admittedly not sure I'm ready to jump on the fairphone train yet but I'm open to the idea.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My phone and laptop have replaceable batteries. It extends the lifetime of these devices by years. Usually the battery is the first part to break.

[-] dystop@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yup, two years in and batteries usually have 50% their capacity or less.

[-] cascadingsymmetry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will never get over Brexit. Europe were really looking out for us as consumers. Also supporting so many communities with grants and funding.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The EU does some really good stuff, but they also do some really absolutely stupid shit.

[-] JanoRis@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A year ago I would have been absolutely for this. I mean I still had a smartphone with swappable battery (LG G4) 2015-2019 and only changed away from it because of the bootloop issues this phone had.

Though last year i switched to the Zenphone 9 and this phone has a phenomenal battery time in my eyes. I only slow charge it to 80% every 2 days and I could use the phone for more than 48h if i wanted. Fully charged i can use it for 3 days. I don't think i will see battery issues for a long time.

I could see that some future phone designs and technologies (like bendable phones) would have it difficult to include swappable batteries. I wonder if those could still use fixed batteries if they offer a free replacement each year or sth like that, instead. The USB-C changes are good for sure though

[-] Blissingg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh no you are one of them people. Slow charging isn’t going to preserve your battery health by any substantial amount. Fast charging isn’t going to kill your battery by any substantial amount.

Just use your phone and stop being worried about useless crap like that.

[-] JanoRis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

maybe, don't really care though since i charge it overnight. So might aswell charge it slow. So yeah i am doing what you say and not caring about useless crap like that :)

[-] Blissingg@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You clearly aren’t you admitted you don’t let it go above 80% as if we are in some archaic ages again.

I decided to check if Zenphone had a similar thing to apples smart charging and it does. You can set it to steady charge and rather than “smart” charging where it learns your typical sleeping times it has schedule charge so it only hits 100% for you waking up.

[-] JanoRis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You were talking about slow charging before. About that option i don't really care and i only use it cause it makes no difference.

Limiting the max charge below 100% is good for battery life though. Recharging to 100% every 3 days would be possible, but pushing it., Charging every 48h to 80% works quite well and is more relaxed with 15-20% spare charge remaining.

I am just following the phones recommendation anyway.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Keeping your Li-Ion battery in the "goldilocks zone" (20-80%) does have an impact on the wear. Usually it's charging the top 10-20% of the battery which has the most impact. I replaced my last battery after 4 years, at which point it had an estimated ~70% capacity remaining.

[-] dystop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

batteries never last. 2 years later and it'll be bad.

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