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submitted 11 months ago by HowRu68@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.de

"The EU’s role in the world is gradually growing, but it is not nearly as strong as its population and economic power would suggest,” the Czech minister said.

“I know that it is not at all popular. I think that a European Federation or a United States of Europe would only put Europe in a position where we would be a truly equal partner in the game between China, America, or Russia and India,” he added.

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[-] bossito@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

This is quite true. Also not easy to achieve. But I'm still hoping to see it in my lifetime. After all I already saw the opening of the borders and a common currency being launched, those weren't easy either. We're closer now to a federation than ever before. Let's vote passionately next year in the European elections 🗳️🇪🇺

[-] RestrictedAccount@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

Agreed and here's why. Europeans will not be able to deal with the state of constant cognitive dissonance that is the hallmark of a properly functioning federation.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 25 points 11 months ago

It's not often that I can be proud of a fellow Czech when they express their opinion about EU.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

You should be. I also believe he's on the right track. Hopefully his input will resonate with others, and help shape a better and more secure future.

[-] sci@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think many countries are too nationalistic for this to happen in the near future.

[-] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 3 points 11 months ago

The idea is at least 100 years old.

[-] skhayfa@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

What kind of power he wants to achieve? Economic domination and imperialism or an Union that benefits its people over the market. Already in EU there's an unhealthy competition between territories for market shares and profits. Corporations and multinational are driving change towards pauperization and climate disaster throughout Europe, Democratic avenue are more and more limited with media concentration and the forces of lobbying. A federation would only streamline that process by privileging economic power and authoritarian order over the interest of people and the planet.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Already in EU there's an unhealthy competition between territories for market shares and profits. Corporations and multinational are driving change towards pauperization and climate disaster throughout Europe (.. etc)

This is quite a statement and generalisation. How do you come to this conclusion? As far as I see it, it's the (right winged) nationalism & regionalism and or (Sino-Russian) propaganda/rhetoric that has been causing problems of late.

Many regulations the EU has forwarded are impossible to achieve on national or regional level.
Expecially concerning emissions and climate issues and nature conservation. And talking about company's profit, as long as national countries enable tax evasion, the rich will become richer. So there's been a New law EU law proposal so the richer people & companies will always have to pay taxes.

These past years it was the EU that's been stopping market dominance and securing a more healthy competition, consumers security & privacy. I don't know where you've been living, but your standard must be pretty high. Tell me more about your Walhalla, and how I get a visa.

Also there are many kinds of federations, so " he " nor anyone else has specified or could specify what kind of federation is going to be formed. It's just an intent or direction, if you will.

[-] bossito@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Exactly. People hear "federation" and immediately think USA, that's a model that no one defends for Europe. In fact we're not so far from being a federation already, the EU could easily call itself a confederation at least. Also nobody wants a revolution, so our future model must be based in our current one, which needs reforms.

Andrew Duff makes a series of sensible proposals on this book that is of free access as an ebook. An interesting read.

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