Should Vancouver get an NBA team? Majority of British Columbians say yes: poll (www.cbc.ca)

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[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

The soonest it would happen is the 2030s. I follow the NBA. There are currently 30 teams. Most around the Association believe that the next two franchises will be Seattle and Las Vegas, and afterwards the NBA will restructure from being 2 conferences of 15 teams to 4 conferences of 8 teams.

Vancouver could get in on the next expected expansion of 4 teams that'd stretch the league from 32 to 36. Mexico City might be in the running as well.

Upcoming TV deals are likely to influence Vancouver's odds of getting an NBA franchise. Currently, the largest TV deals are domestic US deals, like TNT, ESPN and NBC, and in these cases, Canadian viewers effectively don't count. More international and online TV deals for the league as a whole would probably increase the odds of more non-US teams in the NBA, like one in Vancouver.

Another factor is that Raptors owners, rogers and bell, are used to having basically no other competition in the Canadian telecomm and sports broadcast markets. I think that they would have the means and motivation to effectively block another NBA team from expanding into Canada.

The Vancouver Grizzlies were awesome :D

[-] Butterbee@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

I don't follow sports but I remember the Grizzlies being around for a while. Why didn't they work out at the time?

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They left Vancouver because the owner wanted to relocate the team to a (Edit: ~~larger US city~~ larger NBA market) so that he could make more money

[-] Saint_Bandit@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Vancouver is a larger city than Memphis, don't make up narratives. The team left Vancouver because they were awful, with awful leadership and ownership, and were sold to an American owner as they were not profitable. Before they were even created they failed to reach the NBA's minimum ticket sales requirement for a new team, and Shoppers Drug Mart stepped in and bought 2,500 season tickets to reach that minimum threshold, there was no interest in the team. If the team had been anywhere near good in Vancouver they may have become profitable and still playing there, but expansion rules in the NBA back then were insanely awful. Their first year they weren't allowed a top 5 pick, they weren't allowed to use their full salary cap for 2 seasons, AND they couldn't have the #1 pick in the draft for 3 years, even if they won the lottery. These insane rules, and debacle with their best draft selection in Steve Francis refusing to play for the team led to the team being ASS for their entire time in Vancouver.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Memphis is a larger NBA market than Vancouver, where market size is largely a function of (US-centric) TV deals and not local population.

I suppose I didn't clarify that it wasn't the first ownership group that succeeded in moving the team to the US. However, in response to your allegation that I am "making up a narrative", here's how the start of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Grizzlies_relocation_to_Memphis reads:

The Vancouver Grizzlies relocation to Memphis was a successful effort by the ownership group of the Vancouver Grizzlies to move the team from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada to Memphis, Tennessee, United States.

[-] Saint_Bandit@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

You said they wanted to move to a larger city, they moved to a smaller city. And what does you posting the first sentence of a Wikipedia article about the relocation mean? That the article about their relocation is about their relocation? The original owners sold to Michael Helsey in 1999 and he immediately started the process of moving the team. Do a little research instead of doubling down, it's okay to learn.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

Okay, on account of the big stink you're making, I updated my original phrasing from the more conversational "larger US city" to the more robustly correct "larger NBA market." For the sake of your fellow Lemmy users, I think you could find more civil ways to express disagreement with others online

[-] ClopClopMcFuckwad@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The Vancouver Grizzlies were awesome :D

No, no they were not. The players were OK at best. The front office was awful. The Grizzlies had a ton of potential and it was squandered

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

It's weird that I didn't get a poll. Is Research Co just that bad?

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Well if it's any consolation, the results of this post (at time of writing) are currently pretty close to the results of the poll. Although our sample size leaves something to be desired.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

So does the sample size of the poll they did:

the online poll of 800 people

800 out of 5.5 million

[-] Apollonius_Cone@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The question needs to be asked that if British Columbia's are so in favor of an NBA franchise, why didn't they support the Grizzlies when they had them?

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I'm personally ambivalent on this topic but I did consider this question and it seems that the popularity of basketball has grown quite a bit since the Grizzlies moved. That's an old article but if anything is probably more true today than when it was written.

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