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I've never been sentimental about a social media site but it's sad for me to see reddit so clearly killing itself. Pushshift is already banned and Apollo is soon to follow. Reddit will either pivot fully to a mainstream audience or die out. It's just sad for me to see it doing it to itself.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mourn what it was, yes.

There was a recent comment I read about how it's become this incredible resource for the most obscure tech and they were reluctant to delete their posts and accounts because they'd receive random messages of thanks years after the post was made.

And it's true. Reddit has become an invaluable resource for these kinds of things. It was always the community and discussion that made reddit great and they want to turn it into yet another swipebait infested serotonin sponge.

It almost makes me think that when something becomes such an enormous and invaluable public resource, there should be a legal compulsion to archive it before doing anything that will compromise its accessibility.

[–] pancakefriday@mindshare.space 0 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I've been waiting on a replacement for a while. They made a lot of poor choices ever since they dumped the AMA mod. Then there's also this thing about tencent owning a big part of Reddit...

[–] aaronbieber@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Investment usually ultimately ruins everything. In reddit's case it's an even tighter needle to thread because the platform itself produces little value. To be attractive to investors and to produce returns on that investment (perpetually), they have to make operational decisions that prioritize monetization (like all public companies).

u/spez wants his big exit and he'll burn some of it to the ground to get it. But he'll probably get rich, so good for him.

[–] Mac@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, Reddit is trash. What you're missing is the small communities that made it worth enduring. Those communities are created and inhabited by people like us. They will live on somewhere else—maybe even here.

[–] roblarky@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

That's my sentiment as well. It's just a transition period.

[–] aaronbieber@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can we also have a moment of silence for all the other great link sites that have died?

Stumbleupon, kuro5hin, digg, fark (still exists technically but as a shell of its former self)

What was your favorite before reddit?

[–] RuefulSkinkMotel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Bannination and its successor zombn. Small, funny, and I met my wife there!

[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m dating myself but before Reddit it was just rss feeds for me 😅

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

/. for me. Pass the aspirin...

[–] aaronbieber@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Slashdot isn't really dead though is it? Still very active, just, not as popular perhaps.

[–] Thrashy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Sure enough, it is, and my mourning for "imagine a beowulf cluster of..." memes was premature! I was more following along with @Hexorg's statement of how he consumed news before Reddit.

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[–] Klinkertinlegs@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I’ll miss some of the communities I was in. I will not miss Reddit. It’s been going downhill for years.

[–] feetongrass@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I think it's a bit too early for that for me. Currently I'm starting to participate in beehaw as well as use reddit on Apollo, so I don't mind if I don't see stuff here that I have(had) on reddit, but once Apollow shuts down, I'd be using beehaw/lemmy more than I use reddit, and at that point I might mourn some nice things that were destroyed by the reddit admin team.

[–] gingerrich@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm going to miss the Star Trek sub but I am hoping the Lemmy one will pick up.

Overall, Reddit has suffered over the years allowing blatant right wing build ups to take root. My old local sub was seeing dog whistles pop up and general quality of the sub sufferes, even more so when the local football people came over and brought their 'banter' with them along with shit posts. The mods didn't really do anything to guide the quality of the sub and I left it last year. Today I deleted my account. No regrets.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im hoping we get a lot more instances for various niches. Id love ones for particular niche fandoms, like Metroidvanias, or PC gaming, or particular entertainment genres, or animal gifs, that break down into further communities. For example, an pop-nerdy entertainment one could have c/startrek, c/marvel, c/starwars, etc, and only focus on that kind of content.

I dont think one particular instance like Beehaw should have anything more than what the default subs do on reddit

[–] gingerrich@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know what? I'd not even thought of having a seperate instance for stuff like that. I may need to take a look in to how much it would cost and what the moderation effort would be like.

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[–] Witch@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Truthfully? Mixed feelings.

I've mainly been a lurker on Reddit on account of the Reddit userbase being...well, rude sometimes. I disliked using it as a user ever since this time I asked a question and had to reply to like, 5 different comments apologizing for the way I phrased things. I wasn't even being offensive. It was a innocent request for books! I just apparently had to specify "mainstream" instead of phrasing it as "likely to be found at a library".

However, I won't lie when I say it has valuable resources that people put a lot of effort into. For example, I really appreciated /r/EOOD and /r/Fantasy. One is a small community dedicated to exercising more to help with depression, and many people are nice there. The other is a community dedicated to fantasy books, and the resources there are immense. Loved it.

[–] frost@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I think losing out on rather niche communities is going to be my biggest loss from reddit. I've been on reddit since about 2011 or so and the quality and worthwhileness of the site has ebbed and flowed since then, but smaller, sub-10k communities still hold onto the last vestiges of that old-school reddit/internet mindset, and I will miss that a lot. At the end of the day, though, I'm hopeful that Beehaw (and other similar sites/instances) will be able to fill the various voids that we'll all miss - and honestly, we get to be the ones to cultivate that, and I think that's very exciting.

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[–] biscuitsofdoom@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've checked out for a couple years ago.

In many ecosystems, wildfires are nature's way of regenerating the earth,

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit needs to die unfortunately. The last 5 years of development was spent on shitty stickers and nfts that no one will even remember. The project has zero vision, no wonder they want to cash out.

[–] biscuitsofdoom@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to seeing a new concept, from someone. A new idea all together. Like TikTok/vine or IG. Maybe even something not social media related.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Good point. The main issue with Reddit is that producing original content is really difficult and TikTok like take - where making content is as easy as humanly possible - could be very refreshing.

[–] luna@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Beginning to? No. That happened years ago. It was clear several years ago that they were taking the site in a direction I didn't like. Around the time that "new" reddit was released along with the official app.

[–] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Exact same for me, the re-design and the official app were major red flags but since they kept old.reddit and my 3rd party app (RIF) I was still happy even though the community of reddit was obviously degrading... I feel like having an alternative that is viable that is completely free of the commercial trappings such as lemmy here is something that is super appealing to me. I think lemmy is still in a very early phase and I am glad to be here to see what happens.

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[–] someRandomRedneck@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nah, reddit is a lame horse long past the point of getting put down being a merciful thing to do. The only reason it lasted so long is that there wasn't a viable alternative because everything else that cropped up got overran by nazis or tankies (mostly nazis from what I've seen) and that's why I'm glad reddit is cannibalizing itself. It's going to give rise to the fediverse because it can't be overran by either side of the damn horseshoe and it can't be overtaken by corporate interest which is going to attract the middle of the road user that makes up the majority; yeah it'll take some time but it'll happen and I'm not saying it'll be the main thing, I'm just saying it'll be a viable alternative.

[–] Sentenial@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thing is, it already has a mainstream audience with the majority of its users on the official app and using the garbage redesigned website.

Just wondering if the mods and people actually making content are part of that audience or not.

I'm hoping no, and that reddit will fail like Digg given its horrible decision making the last few days. May that IPO crash and burn.

[–] roblarky@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

That's what I think, those who are actually interested in managing a quality sub will likely learn how the fediverse works and move, since the quality of people here will, on average, be higher than the unwashed masses.

[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually liked silly shitposts/memes that reach the top of /r/funny and the like. The good ones were far and in between but there was just so many people posting that you’d see a good one per day

[–] zettajon@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is actually the real reason I joined Lemmy. I joined Reddit back in 2012 and as it grew, it slowly became the crapshoot it is today with memes. Shit, remember when comment replies of just "🤣🤣🤣" was literally THE definition of a downvote-able comment? "Adding nothing to the discussion"

I'm SO happy to get away from the shitposts, and hope the lack of ease of joining the fediverse stays as a barrier against users who post that crap, and they remain on Reddit and TikTok.

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[–] BreadDog@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Yes and no, as a 12 year vet.

Reddit is not what it was when I joined. Back in the early 2010's reddit really felt like the internet's evolution from forums. Not going to pretend it was the first, but it really did feel like something was special about it. The community aspect was really important back then. All of the sudden, it felt like you could literally build a community around anything, with little effort, and the "Build it and they will come" factor would kick in.

But things have spoiled since then. We have over a decade worth of "Eternal Septembers", and being a redditor turned into "being a redditor" has turned into, we'll it's just another part of social media infrastructure. Pretty much everybody I know who has use the site has basically sectioned themselves off from using the site as a a whole and just have their specific subs that they browse. I'm a programmer so I basically just use it for the programming subs and different games I play like OSRS, Factorio, etc.

And I guess, a last thought, I don't think reddit is going to die from this. I would wager the vast majority of the userbase really doesn't give a shit, and to be honest, that is fine. Like I said, reddit is part of internet social infrastructure at this point. It's probably still going to be useful to prefix google searches with "reddit some product" to find the best human reviews of that product. But for me, I don't really feel the need to keep using it day to day. I'm looking for a community and I can find it elsewhere.

[–] Kostyeah@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't really miss it at all tbh. I wasn't an active poster, but I would lurk every day. At a certain point it got repetitive, where I could guess what the comments would be like on the next post. It got too big to support any meaningful discussion, and devlovled into stupid jokes and puns.

[–] god@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Well if you only browse default communities yes. This is very much not the case in niche communities. There are many very small subreddit that are very productive for problem solving.

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[–] PredictiveTextNames@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It almost doesn't even feel real. Like, in a few weeks I won't be using reddit almost at all anymore since RiF will be gone. And yet, I'm still browsing Reddit just as much right now as ever and seeing almost no difference other than salty posts about the API changes on a few subs.

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[–] Sabata11792@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Been mourning for years. I'm finally over it.

[–] alehel@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Although I liked reddit, I didn't like the focus on karma. Way to many posts were made purely in an attempt to collect karma. Ruins the conversion and litters the feed with re-posts of videos that belong to someone else.

[–] SemioticStandard@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, absolutely. I love(d) Reddit! All the niche communities, all the subs that I enjoyed so much, like r/whowouldwin and r/tiktokcringe and r/askhistorians and so many more :(

I admit, I have sentimentality attached there. It sucks. It does feel almost like the loss of a friend.

[–] freshhotbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Federated is the way that Reddit needed to go, so the transition from Reddit to Lemmy is just what we needed. Now, whoever wants to create a community and moderate it according to their own rules can do so.

[–] sailsperson@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Eh, I liked the fact that Reddit has boilerplate rules for everyone to follow, basically. I know a lot of that is ignored, but it's not a bad idea.

The coolest thing about having all that federated is the non-monolithic approach. Different instances can kinda be seen like different backups, especially during the first waves of power users happily self-hosting instances. Everybody wins when there's a healthy balance between what kind of power the everymen and the more powerful ones have. Not that there's some looming overseer for Lemmy, but the point remains.

[–] Infinitybiscuit@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I miss the community and the excitement it brought me to discover something new. That faded a long time ago. I think it’s a good thing to just let it die.

[–] lvxferre@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've mourned more for the shells of the eggs that I broke today. That was a tasty omelette.

I'm genuinely happy that Reddit is dying. Yes, it'll lead to some information loss and that's bad, but we've been stuck in that abusive platform for too long. Now at least saner alternatives will get some room to grow.

[–] Traumkaempfer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Reddit in general was never really a good place in my opinion. There are some really great subreddits with a nice community and good moderation. But Reddit in general? There’s far too much racism and misogyny covered up or even encouraged by the admins.

I’m going to miss what it could have and me leaving the site has begun years ago when I left all default subreddits. All this now is part of the enshittification of the internet and most people don’t seem to care. They still use Twitter, they continue using Instagram and they will continue using Reddit because they prefer what the companies tell them is a good user experience. They now prefer ads and an easy onboarding process to enhanced privacy and some missing features.

[–] LongtimeLurker1999@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I made the decision to leave Reddit after Apollo was announced to be shutting down. I'll hang around until Apollo dies, but I'm already mourning the loss of niche communities. I can only hope that they'll be replicated here.

On the bright side, this place being smaller in terms of userbase makes it less intimidating for me to comment more often.

[–] RoaringSilence@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Remember that legendary times when reddit was new?

That's what's happening now in the fediverse with Lemmy and kbin, I am to excited being a part of it as to mourn about reedit.

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[–] god@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

What I mourn is not reddit. I couldn't give a shit about the company, the software, etc. What I mourn is the freedom and easy availability of information. I've always found it a bit stupid but convenient that everyone just congregated there. I'd much, however, prefer there to be specialized forums for each thing, findable through Google, perhaps federated. Decentralization is the way to go to ensure durability and freedom. Everyone being on one platform is very stupid and fragile.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I'm still expecting a relatively slow death for Reddit, perhaps even not a total one like with Digg's quick and complete collapse. I'll be sticking around Reddit past the June 30 horizon, I'll just be doing it entirely via my desktop browser. I'll probably only stop going once they get rid of Old Reddit.

This means that there'll be a gradual winding down of the communities I pay attention to, accompanied by a gradual migration to places like here. Hopefully little will be lost in the process.

[–] Xylia@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I’m mostly just upset about the fact that healthy niche communities that existed on Reddit are likely to die rather than migrate in earnest. Reddit itself has been feeling downhill pretty much from the moment I joined, but it was the only service that managed to have not only very specific niche communities, but a wealth of active ones with quality contributors.

I just joined here and haven’t lurked too much, but the format here looks nice to foster that type of growth over time. I just hope it can be rebuilt to even a portion of what I’m leaving behind.

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