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I know Kbin will grow in time but I miss how huge Reddit was.

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[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

On reddit if you were european you were basically missing the action since the posts were written by americans and already 8 hours old, and your replies would be buried under the hundreds of comments.

Most of the time there was no point if you weren't present like 1h after a post was made.

The only people who would read your comments would be an AI.

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[–] freebrick@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Became so huge that I was typing a comment on Reddit and most of the time half way through I gave up and close the tab cause it wasn't worth it. It would get buried.

[–] lnm225@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I have had my hands full acclimating to the fediverse, bumping between instances to "try them on for size" over the last several days post-Rexxit . . . And the growth just in that short span has been exponential.

I suspect Lemmy will rival the hugeness sooner than you think.

Plus, its been kinda cool to sort by "New" to find new communities/magazines and actual quality content!

[–] izax@pawb.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It will get there. I don't think it's going to be the same as Mastodon, because on here it's actually somewhat simple to find things.

[–] Stardust@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I definitely prefer here to Mastodon so far, simply for that reason.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Patience you must have my young padawan.

[–] IntendantTradwife@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I'm not good at patience q.q

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago

That's what she says.

[–] Haan@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I don’t. I like how I can comment on something and not have it buried. Engagement is much higher here

[–] popshabang@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah--I constantly read about how people liked reddit back in the day, or liked digg, but don't connect it to the fact that the reason why they were better back in the day was because they were smaller and more intimate (for lack of a better word).

I'm excited for the fediverse to grow, but for me it's already reached that critical mass for it to be engaging

[–] parrot-party@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

That intimacy was still available on Reddit, but you needed to dig into the niche subs to find it. Commenting on large subs was definitely a cup of water in the ocean feeling.

[–] popshabang@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Oh absolutely--that's really the only reason I was able to stay on reddit. I do miss some of those smaller communities, but have resorted to actual forums now (if applicable), or just going without.

Shoutouts to the fiberglassflyrodders.com forums

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[–] ImDonaldDunn@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Ehh…as someone who was on Reddit and Digg back in the day, they were much larger than Lemmy currently is.

[–] c3VjayBteSBhc3MK@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

As someone who was on Reddit and Digg way way back in the day, there was a point where they were about the size of what Lemmy currently is.

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[–] wr4th4@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

hear, hear! i don't miss all the spam and bots.

[–] Bat@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The UI definitely needs an update. Need more distinction between comments.

[–] holo_nexus@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

You can try changing appearance theme found in the settings (gear) icon towards the bottom. Helped with differentiating comments.

I do agree that UI needs improvement which will eventually come.

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[–] dh@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Reddit feels like it grew exponentially the last few years. I noticed a huge increase in the number of accounts with auto-generated usernames and accounts referring to Reddit as an "app." To me it also seemed to become increasingly toxic with this new wave of users. Hoping for a big reset with one of these new offshoots.

[–] TechnoBabble@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

There was absolutely a phase shift in the atmosphere of Reddit when it grew exponentially.

Used to be, people were willing to discuss topics in ways that had at least some nuance. But nowadays you get attacked for discussion that doesn't fit the narrow guidelines of "acceptable".

Still, the smaller communities of Reddit retain some of the open-minded discussion that's lost in big subs.

Hopefully here we can grow to a respectably sized community, while still allowing the freedom of dissenting opinion.

Without algorithms that target division to increase numbers, that might actually be possible here in a way that's non-existent on the corporate platforms. But it'll be a difficult achievement.

[–] Xperr7@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Around 2019 is when I noticed that shift.

[–] Scope@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had an account from 2010, and over the course of the 2016 US presidential election is when I started noticing the shift. Society seems to have shifted in general. MeToo and BLM coincided around that time, as well.

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[–] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I, too, am a size queen.

Jokes aside, I was telling irl people about how even if I post something to the craft communities, there just isn't a critical mass to make me feel validated from posting.

I made kind of a big overture in many comment sections agreeing with others that kbin felt kinder and different from 2017-present reddit, but then a lot of folks came in and started up the same low-effort content communities and fell back into the same patterns of memes, so now it kind of feels grubby.

And the places on reddit where I loved lurking and reading analyses and hot takes (news, world news, politics) all are total ghost towns in the Fediverse (at least, what early magazines I've subscribed to last weekend).

Whatever the perks are here - and I'm aware it's all a work in progress at this stage - it lacks robustness for me.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know if others have the same strategy but I deliberately did not subscribe to any political magazines. I noticed that since I left Reddit I've been feeling really great and I think it's because I haven't been as exposed to rage inducing political news articles. I'm sticking mainly to chat and Reddit related posts, and I've been posting a little bit on the NYC and Brooklyn kbin.social magazines to try and breathe a little life into them (they have no activity). In short, i am curating my Fediverse experience a bit to be mellow.

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[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think there’s a size between Reddit and Lemmy that’s ideal. And as Lemmy grows it will get hopefully there. I have no desire to post a comment in a thread with 10k comments. I’m more hopeful that Lemmy will get better than in hopeful that Reddit won’t get worse.

[–] maxerature@social.tath.link 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My favorite subreddits were those that had a good 25k active users. Enough that there were a good 2500 active posters and commenters, and people knew each other a little. However, some support subreddits with 100k+ were nice.

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[–] FabledAepitaph@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, I totally agree here. There is an optimal size. Three people commenting on one post might be too limited, but 10k people commenting on one post is pointless. There's a middle ground that will be awesome. Also, maybe the slightly more decentralized nature of a federated setup will solve that problem entirely? I can foresee places that do become Reddit size, with islands of tiny intimate communities that preserve the smaller feel that people seem to be enjoying today. Only time will tell!

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Better to be a grower than a shower

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It took me an embarrassing long time to process the word "shower" in that phrase lol.

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[–] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't lol, every comment and post I made there was like screaming into the void. The responses you do get in large subs are either tired memes, people trying to argue even though they agree with you, or just straight up bots reposting comments.

[–] IntendantTradwife@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I usually only lurked on the larger subs because of that problem

[–] yoshi_nori@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

I also choose this guy's social media size.

But seriously, it might grow in time. I think if it gets more accessible, people will start using one of the fediverse flavours, and it will grow from there.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

My wife says, "it's not the size but what you do with it". And she's really smart. But seriously, I'm loving the smaller start. We'll grow, but right now I feel like I'm heard on a level Reddit never offered. Every great journey begins with a single step.

[–] IntendantTradwife@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

It's definitely a higher engagement ratio or whatever the right term is for it! I do love that!

[–] olrik@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have size but don't know what to do with it, can confirm women don't like that.

[–] Cyder@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago

I do too BUT, it's nice to actually get to engage with people when I make a comment due to the smaller community. Reddit is so big, my comments usually get buried quickly under the memes and quips.

[–] heyfluxay@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Just like a bad ex…. Gotta just let it go.

[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I understand this only because my husband still is looking at reddit. I had to have a talk with him as to why I am changing platforms, the point of not visiting a site during a protest, and how Lemmys and kbin need time to grow. He was looking at news and he said "well your site doesn't have anything! It's basically empty where am I supposed to go for discussion!"

I told him he needs to either just view the news sites directly and contribute, or just try to curb usage and allow the sites time to grow. Use your phones native news app for now, whatever it takes to not add to Reddits ad revenue and user count.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this was reddit, you'd be smothered in replies asking why you haven't left your husband yet.

[–] Ni@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Red flags everywhere, you know I'd forgotten that was everyone's response on reddit!

[–] popshabang@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, there's a lot of content here already.

Yeah it's not the same endless dopamine drip feed conveyor belt that is Reddit, but there's plenty of content to engage with.

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[–] Scope@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

kbin could be a bit bigger, but the collective reddit personality is downright insufferable, and I suspect it's largely because of its size. There are just too many people with opinions as strong as they are different, and we're often not any better off after our interactions with them.

Plus all the troll bots and fake AI posts.

[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Meh, I haven't see a single toxic comment since I came here, althought that will probably eventually change. I don't expect toxicity will become a huge issue. Every time I've encountered toxicity on Reddit basically boils down to either covert racism, or false accusations of being a racist.

[–] WTFisthisOMGreally@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love your faith in humanity.

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[–] Scope@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Have you noticed basically no one downvotes here? The user base seems to be more accessible and emotionally mature in general so far.

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