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They really didn't have to redesign a text box. Please stop reinventing the wheel. I don't need another pop up in my life.

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I just looked through all the settings, there doesn't seem to be a way to change it back.

[-] AncientJames@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Smart compose is there for me. It looks like this bar will have more icons depending on the context and maybe more in the future.

[-] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Fuckin annoying tbh. Can't stand when giga corps do this and sense it's required for rcs I can't just go get a better foss alternative sense none of the people I text are tech savvy or able/willing to switch to something else and rcs is pretty essential for me knowing if someone read it or not.

If I could I would ditch all google and giga corps products but I'm way to poor to do that. And it's so ingrained into society it's hard to find anything that works with these proprietary shit.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago

Linux on mobile is no good, and the devices it does run on do not support the proper bands and modes for usable coverage, if the carriers even allow the devices on their networks. (A more US problem all around.)

[-] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Pinephone pro had awesome cell coverage. Better than my pixel 4 xl even. Now battery life is a totally different story. I’d last I tried was pretty awful too as phosh wasn’t amazing and plasma mobile would kill itself often. It’s been at least a year since I last used any of it though since I left it 5 states away.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

Bear in mind, the signal "bars" are a relative measurement, the only way to be sure is to look at radio debug and see signal strength across all bands the phone is connected to at the time.

According to the FCC SAR report: https://files.pine64.org/doc/cert/PinePhonePro%20SAR%20Evaluation%20Report-S21101902806001.pdf it only supports LTE bands 2,4,5,12,13,41 in the US, which overall isn't terrible.

However, that leaves out 14,25(superset of 2),26,29,30,46,48,66(superset of 4),71.

14 and 71 are necessary on AT&T or T-Mobile respectively for low band coverage in some markets where they don't own band 12 spectrum, the others are more capacity bands on the various carriers, but with the shift to 5G, they're more important on a phone that doesn't support 5G like Pinephone Pro.

dude, i was talking about desktop linux

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[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 months ago

I'm not a fan either. I will swap to literally any FOSS texting app that supports RCS.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 0 points 6 months ago

Is there any foss messaging app that support RCS though?

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[-] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Apparently Textra itself doesn't support desktop sync like Google's app, but there are workarounds.

However, does Textra support RCS?

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I hate this new layout. Why is the box smaller than the width of the screen? It was already too small. If anything they should have made it taller and kept it the same width it was before

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I paid for Textra over a decade ago, and it's easily the best money I've ever spent. It's the best texting app I've ever used and I highly recommend everyone check it out. They still churn out updates regularly and the features are above and beyond most messaging apps.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

I will just drop this here:

Please dont let Google also scan your Messages?

[-] iamnotdunningkruger@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

How do I turn this off? Google search results are of no help 🤔

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[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I love textra. I wish I could just get everyone on signal though

[-] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I think the only downside to Textra is that it doesn't support RCS - or I don't believe it does. They have a newer app called Chomp SMS that does. I'm still using Textra because the only communication I get on it is from companies.

[-] nymwit@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Do you have information on it supporting rcs? I don't see anything on the play store mentioning it. The first Google results I see say it doesn't. Seems like it would be a big deal because if they did and would be prominently displayed as I thought only Google messages and Samsung messages supported rcs.

https://chomp.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1895488-rcs-implementation

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago

Can Textra handle RCS yet? I bought it ages ago but ditched it when it couldn't handle RCS

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[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it's an improvement, particularly for folks like my grandfather that have the UI/font scale increased.

On his phone there was basically 1-2 words that would fit in that old text box ...

so his
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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Then maybe they should make it an option instead of ruining it for the rest of us because wasting space is the new hip thing.

[-] Racle@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

Just out of curiosity, how much people still use SMS? I can't remember last time I sent SMS.

Here in Finland we use mainly Whatsapp, FB Messenger, Telegram or Signal for messaging. Almost no one I know has sent SMS in the last 10 years.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's not a choice, here, so much as it is the result of our smartphone culture.

In the US, using the default messaging app on your phone is the norm for most people. Third party messaging apps like WhatsApp simply never caught on over here, so we've let Apple, Google, Samsung, etc determine how we talk to each other. Vendor lock-in tactics run rampant, with barely any regulation.

The default messaging apps on iPhone is iMessage. It's locked down and can not communicate with any other messaging app except via SMS. Therefore the other apps have to use it to communicate with iPhone users.

Conversely, Google has a messaging protocol they're trying to get Apple to adopt called RCS, but Google also refuses to let RCS be used by third party apps. So SMS becomes the fallback for communication between them.

It's partially corporate bickering, partially consumers being tech illiterate and staunchly opposed to using anything third party. Particularly in the case of iPhone users, there's a strong culture of entrenchment in the Apple ecosystem, and for some people, not being in it is actually seen as worthy of derision. There's actual cases of bullying in schools if a kid doesn't use iPhone, and that's having an increasingly detrimental effect on the market.

You have to appreciate, in Europe, you're mostly using Android, a (somewhat) open ecosystem, and that mentality is stronger over there.

But here in the states, iPhones are extremely prominent, and with them comes the mentality that Apple has spent decades programming into its consumers: don't use anything non-Apple, and if that creates problems for other people, too bad, they should just buy Apple too.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

You use 4 different apps to send messages while we mostly use one. Not sure that's the win you think it is.

[-] Racle@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Just to be clear, never said that I used all of those. Just made quick list of most popular apps to use here :P If I had to guess, over 95% of people here just use WhatsApp.

They all have pretty much same functionality what traditional sms is missing.

[-] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

I use the default Google messaging app, and am in the US. When sending to other Android users it uses RCS. The only time it sends as SMS/MMS is when messaging iPhones because Apple won't support RCS

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

If I'm not mistaken then Apple can't support RCS until Google opens it up. It's a closed protocol tied to the Google Messaging app. Go look for another Android app that supports RCS. There are none. Okay, there's one from an unknown company, with a bunch of bad reviews.

[-] step6672@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 0 points 6 months ago

Their implementation will not feature E2E encryption.

[-] step6672@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

The only RCS implementation that has E2EE is Google Messages (well, pretty much the only one available, but anyways), RCS as a protocol doesn't have it by default, right?

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago

You are right.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 6 months ago

i thought rcs was developed by openwhisper for signal

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[-] themusicman@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

I like it. Previously it would hide a bunch of icons to give the bar more space, now it doesn't need to

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[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -2 points 6 months ago

Download the messaging app of your choice. Get friends to download it if they want to contact you. Use that app and too bad if no one else does shrug

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While I agree this is bad, do people still use messages? In my country everyone uses WhatsApp or Telegram.

The only time I open the messages app is to get OTPs or something.

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