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They really didn't have to redesign a text box. Please stop reinventing the wheel. I don't need another pop up in my life.

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[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Yup hate the new update. I have a weird problem with deleting words too with the backspace since the update. Will probably revert to Samsung messages soon.

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I paid for Textra over a decade ago, and it's easily the best money I've ever spent. It's the best texting app I've ever used and I highly recommend everyone check it out. They still churn out updates regularly and the features are above and beyond most messaging apps.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think it's an improvement, particularly for folks like my grandfather that have the UI/font scale increased.

On his phone there was basically 1-2 words that would fit in that old text box ...

so his
text
message
preview
looked
like this
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[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I love textra. I wish I could just get everyone on signal though

[–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the only downside to Textra is that it doesn't support RCS - or I don't believe it does. They have a newer app called Chomp SMS that does. I'm still using Textra because the only communication I get on it is from companies.

[–] nymwit@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have information on it supporting rcs? I don't see anything on the play store mentioning it. The first Google results I see say it doesn't. Seems like it would be a big deal because if they did and would be prominently displayed as I thought only Google messages and Samsung messages supported rcs.

https://chomp.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1895488-rcs-implementation

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[–] camr_on@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I had no idea they had another texting app. I'll have to check it out and compare

[–] Racle@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Just out of curiosity, how much people still use SMS? I can't remember last time I sent SMS.

Here in Finland we use mainly Whatsapp, FB Messenger, Telegram or Signal for messaging. Almost no one I know has sent SMS in the last 10 years.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You use 4 different apps to send messages while we mostly use one. Not sure that's the win you think it is.

[–] Racle@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Just to be clear, never said that I used all of those. Just made quick list of most popular apps to use here :P If I had to guess, over 95% of people here just use WhatsApp.

They all have pretty much same functionality what traditional sms is missing.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't be an SMS discussion without someone patting themselves on the back because they use use some corpo app.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not a choice, here, so much as it is the result of our smartphone culture.

In the US, using the default messaging app on your phone is the norm for most people. Third party messaging apps like WhatsApp simply never caught on over here, so we've let Apple, Google, Samsung, etc determine how we talk to each other. Vendor lock-in tactics run rampant, with barely any regulation.

The default messaging apps on iPhone is iMessage. It's locked down and can not communicate with any other messaging app except via SMS. Therefore the other apps have to use it to communicate with iPhone users.

Conversely, Google has a messaging protocol they're trying to get Apple to adopt called RCS, but Google also refuses to let RCS be used by third party apps. So SMS becomes the fallback for communication between them.

It's partially corporate bickering, partially consumers being tech illiterate and staunchly opposed to using anything third party. Particularly in the case of iPhone users, there's a strong culture of entrenchment in the Apple ecosystem, and for some people, not being in it is actually seen as worthy of derision. There's actual cases of bullying in schools if a kid doesn't use iPhone, and that's having an increasingly detrimental effect on the market.

You have to appreciate, in Europe, you're mostly using Android, a (somewhat) open ecosystem, and that mentality is stronger over there.

But here in the states, iPhones are extremely prominent, and with them comes the mentality that Apple has spent decades programming into its consumers: don't use anything non-Apple, and if that creates problems for other people, too bad, they should just buy Apple too.

[–] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use the default Google messaging app, and am in the US. When sending to other Android users it uses RCS. The only time it sends as SMS/MMS is when messaging iPhones because Apple won't support RCS

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken then Apple can't support RCS until Google opens it up. It's a closed protocol tied to the Google Messaging app. Go look for another Android app that supports RCS. There are none. Okay, there's one from an unknown company, with a bunch of bad reviews.

[–] step6672@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their implementation will not feature E2E encryption.

[–] step6672@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only RCS implementation that has E2EE is Google Messages (well, pretty much the only one available, but anyways), RCS as a protocol doesn't have it by default, right?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

You are right.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 2 years ago

i thought rcs was developed by openwhisper for signal

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I will just drop this here:

Please dont let Google also scan your Messages?

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can Textra handle RCS yet? I bought it ages ago but ditched it when it couldn't handle RCS

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nothing can without the blessing of Google, and so far that's limited to Google Messages and Samsung Messages (whatever it's called)

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[–] themusicman@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I like it. Previously it would hide a bunch of icons to give the bar more space, now it doesn't need to

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

At the cost of space for the actual content on screen.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

From what I noticed they only added an emoji button though. This already is on my keyboard area. Maybe I'm missing something but at least you enjoy it.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago

Download the messaging app of your choice. Get friends to download it if they want to contact you. Use that app and too bad if no one else does shrug

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

While I agree this is bad, do people still use messages? In my country everyone uses WhatsApp or Telegram.

The only time I open the messages app is to get OTPs or something.

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