Updates on the Xbox Business (andrew.masto.host)

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Updates on the Xbox Business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGlD9SO3rKU

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[-] simple@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

TL;DW:

Pentiment, Hi Fi Rush, Grounded, Sea of Thives are going cross-platform
Indiana Jones and Starfield are NOT going cross-platform, contrary to rumors
Phil emphasizes this is "not a change of their fundamental exclusive strategy"
They are doubling down on Game Pass, saying all their games will be on game pass day 1
Actiblizz games are coming to game pass, starting with Diablo 4.
Next-gen Xbox confirmed and are hyping it up to be the largest technical leap in any hardware generation.
Hardware announcement is coming this holiday season (but they didn't confirm if this will be the aforementioned next-gen hardware)

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are doubling down on Game Pass, saying all their games will be on game pass day 1 Actiblizz games are coming to game pass, starting with Diablo 4.

One step closer to the dream of turning the video game industry into the music industry

Musicians in the age of streaming cannot, quote, "record music once every three to four years and think that's going to be enough." That pronouncement came from Spotify CEO Daniel Ek in a recent interview with the website Music Ally. His comment made a lot of musicians angry and reignited frustrations over how much Spotify pays artists. At a time when the company's business is doing relatively well, NPR's Andrew Limbong takes a look at how the cash is flowing.

Look for video game execs spouting this exact same copypasta class war bullshit going forward

Ref:https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901064434/comments-from-spotify-ceo-anger-some-musicians

[-] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I'm hoping this means more exposure for Hi-Fi Rush and more odds for a sequel. I loved that game to death

[-] gwheel@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Did the specific games get confirmed? Video basically said two live service games and two smaller passion projects.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

The Verge claimed that's what they are and it seems to match what Spencer said about the games. The verge is a trustworthy source I'd say.

Sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans tell me the first two titles will be Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment, followed by Sea of Thieves and Grounded.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

Are theyaking game pass come to Linux?

[-] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wonder what took them so long to make a response. The community was turning against them and they took an entire week to tell them that no, they do, in fact, want to keep making video game consoles.

Nothing announced in the video is ground-breaking, nor did it require so much time to prepare.

(Honestly, Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush going multiplatform in place of Starfield is a huge win for PlayStation users lol)

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The community was freaking the fuck out and it was seriously the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

People defending exclusives and berating MS for taking their games multiplatform, IGN claiming that Xbox was on fire and dying as a brand, people pissed that somehow Xbox was abandoning loyal fans...

The whole thing was so overblown.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The point is, Xbox is performing very badly, with the latest metrics suggesting not only that PS5 blew them out of the water, but also that XSeries is selling less than its predecessor. Coupled with rumors about exclusives going multiplatform, people feared that it meant that MS didn't have enough faith in the brand to keep going, and that Xbox would end like Windows Phone.

The concern was real and, in my opinion, perfectly justified. MS telling them to wait a week for an answer, without dismissing the rumors was the weird part. They saw the community on fire and said, "This is fine". All-around incompetence.

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Except if anyone paid any attention to Microsoft over the last 5 years they'd already know that Microsoft don't want exclusives because they want to bring PC and Xbox together.

People need to stop being baited by shitty journalists. Grow a braincell or 2.

Edit: The braincell part not directed to the commenter above me.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Those games are already available on PC, nobody was freaking out about that. People were wary of MS exclusives being ported to other console platforms.

Consoles live and die by exclusives. Porting those over suggests a lack of faith in the brand and would be like admitting defeat. It wasn't clickbait rage journos baiting people, it was people reading the room and realising that the Xbox brand wasn't as strong as they thought.

[-] Specal@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

I mean I guess? Exclusives are anti-consumer so I don't know why people defend them. Sounds cultish to me

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You don't need to defend exclusives or become part of a cult to understand how the market works.

Exclusives are a big part of what makes a console successful (not the only one, mind you, but they certainly play a role in convincing people to buy a console), and porting them over to the competing console would be like admitting defeat for MS.

Although fanboys certainly exist (on both sides), a lot of people weren't being cultish. They were simply concerned for the future of Xbox and re-evaluating their choice: why buy a console, when I can buy the competition and play all its games plus other exclusive titles? Why invest in a digital library if there's no guarantee that the platform will keep existing?

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Well you've said it yourself, Microsoft are trying to remove that physical limitation to accessing a platform. But Microsoft knows what the market wants, people have been against exclusives for a long time and they want to remove that, I shouldn't have to spend £300 to play a game when I have equipment already capable of playing a game Infront of me.

So being scared that Xbox is going to disappear is stupid, the consoles might, but Microsoft has been transforming Xbox into a platform for years, starting with the release of windows 7 when they introduced XboxLive for windows alongside halo 2. This has been a long term goal.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

So being scared that Xbox is going to disappear is stupid, the consoles might, but Microsoft has been transforming Xbox into a platform for years, starting with the release of windows 7 when they introduced XboxLive for windows alongside halo 2.

If Xbox disappears, so does your digital library and other purchases (some games you can buy once and get on PC as well, but last time I checked, they were few and far in between). I can see that being a concern for people that bought into the Xbox ecosystem for the last few gens.