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response to recent trends rule (lemmy.cafe)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

—Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

mid 2022, the media begins scrutinizing Swift for her flying patterns
- in response, Swift’s jet drops from 19 to just over 2 flights per month
- her flights pick up slightly with the start of her massive Eras tour but still significantly less than pre-July 2022
December 6, 2023, Swift embroiled in election conspiracy theory, basically making her MAGA’s enemy number one.
January 30, 2024, Taylor Swift gets rid of one private jet
February 6, 2024, news outlets first report on the cease and desist.

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[-] lessthanluigi@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Well, there is Dexter Holland (Lead singer of The Offspring) that flys his own private jet. So you can yell at him now

[-] lud@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Flying your own jet isn't better or worse than having someone else fly it.

But if his private jet is a normal private jet and not a small Cessna then yes he should stop flying it.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Is this Reddit?

Gtfo I can’t downvote this shit enough.

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[-] Pilgrim@beehaw.org 21 points 5 months ago

I agree with the general idea here, but when I started following the Swift jet tracker after the Superbowl, I saw her make two flights that next day. Seems to me, some people are taking a whole hell of a lot while the rest of us are left with scraps.

[-] Pohl@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

I’m not sure I fully understand the criticism to be perfectly honest. Is it actually possible to have a mega pop star of that type without them having a more intensive carbon footprint? Like she can’t really fly commercially for a lot of reasons. Tour schedules are one thing but can you imagine the scene it would make?

Fame is really just letting one person, who we consider special for some reason, use the resources of many. They get to live an extravagant lifestyle and we get the cultural benefit their work.

Bottom line: private jet travel seems to me like a requirement of her job. I’m not about to sit here and shame everyone for the carbon output that their job requires of them. She is not some capital class, passive income, leech. The lady works.

FWIW, I don’t really think I could name or identify one of her songs. Everything I know about her is what bleeds through into my media sphere. She could be a real shitheal for all I know.

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[-] SpunkyMcGoo@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

why am i supposed to care about this person? why do people keep talking about her? i don't care!!!!!!!

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[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

I like this format for public address

Your points have been heard and my opinion has been swayed

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[-] janabuggs@beehaw.org 17 points 5 months ago

Spujb is good people. I appreciate all the content you post.

So in all honesty, I have been adamantly anti Taylor Swift since the moment I learned there was a new pop star, but this is only because I hate all pop stars and anything corporate. I appreciate the reminder to check yourself on misogyny though. That really does slip into our subconscious so easily.

You know what hate brigade I am praying for? Dave fucking Grohl. I cannot think of a more neutral ass corporate shill.

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[-] Napain@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

yeah, they only meme about her because she is a threat to the maga crowd