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[-] jungekatz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This is literally my flatmate , calls himself centrist , but would blame left wing media for showing the truth because the news hurt a RW sentiment !

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

You mean the centrist media? Because there's really no main stream left wing media, not enough money in it.

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[-] OttoVonGoon@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is pretty accurate for the U.S., at least based on what I've seen of people online. I am not American, but one of your political parties built a gallows outside of the capital building and broke in while carrying weapons and chanting about hanging the vice president. I don't think you can really be centrist when that's one of the choices. You're either for or against the "murder the government, ban democracy and institute fascism" party.

[-] Alisu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I'm neither left nor right, I'm forward

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[-] ZIRO@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am a socialist, though I do not subscribe to all of the American left's social or moral takes. I just want everyone to have a strong government-provided safety net, good social services, and a satisfying life that isn't defined by the type of work one does or one's profession.

edit: Having said that, it doesn't seem like either the "left" or the "right," at least in America, truly cares about effecting these sorts of changes. They just want to be loud.

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[-] Parsnip8904@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not one of those people, especially since I don't live in the US but is it so hard to envision having different views on different issues?

All of the stances taken by one side need not resonate with you.

I for example am not in support of social media witch hunts when someone is accused of being racist/sexist/classist and and so on. I firmly believe that we should be instituting bodies that have the power to investigate issues like this and take appropriate actions, with more freedom than the typical judicial process. This however does not mean that I don't support gender equality, climate action or social welfare measures.

Another example would be affirmative action. I find it horrible that the supreme court gutted it the way it did but I also find it quite unpleasant that the elected representatives, in all this time, did not try to replace it with grassroot level measure such as food security, free tuition, books etc. higher school and teacher density in lower income or low performing areas. I feel that affirmative action was a stop gap measure, but it ended up being the prop used by politicians to not act on more fundamental issues.

Honestly, I would rather forgo the label altogether. In my experience label makes people into tribes and tribes aren't really conducive to nuanced dialogue or individual opinions, rather, they're good at collective action.

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