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submitted 1 year ago by McBinary@kbin.social to c/scifi@kbin.social

I really don't understand the hate this show got. I really enjoyed it! A unique concept, story driven - season long plot arcs, great acting, incredible visuals, and fantastic characters. Sure there was some goofy stuff in there too, but star trek always has goofy shit.

I really felt like this was going to be a turning point of bringing star trek out of the 'everything-contained-in-an-episode' nonsense, and into the golden age of storytelling.

What did you think about it?

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[-] Horik@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to agree with OP.
Discovery had fantastic writing, great acting, some of my favorite characters ever (both relatable and not-but-I-want-to-know-them-better). Also stunning effects.

That said, I see the crtirique that it's not "Star Trek" and I understand that viewpoint. But I always saw it as part of the same universe, just the part OG Trek didn't focus on. Kinda like DS9 wanted to be.

So Discovery carved itself a niche in my version of the Trekverse, and I will always be happy it did. (Not to start arguments, but I liked it sooooo much better than Enterprise).

[-] nothingspecial@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I love Discovery, despite/because/whatever the occasional cheese and the overflow of Michael's tears. I really enjoyed the fact that they went what some people want to belittle under the term woke. To me, they went empathetic, emotionally healthy. Not using emotional immaturity to create artificial, clumsy plot suspense through the characters acting foolishly/immaturely. It's the Federation... they 100% are woke. Empathy and understanding and patience are qualities they'd prioritize to succeed both as a civilization and at smaller scale a crew, and it's nice to see the characters act accordingly. I get enough toxic stupidity in my daily contemporary life. It's nice to dream about humans improving in wisdom. Thanks, Discovery.

[-] wurzelwerk@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Discovery as an idea of a show would work way better in a starwars universe rather than star trek. Star trek shows usually at least pretend to care about science. Discovery threw that out the window right from the start, and excelled at keeping anything scientific miles away. Not trying to diss the show, but wrong universe imho.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Discovery I feel had some good storylines, but it had some of the most boring, forced, slow, touchy-feely character development I've seen.

I remember there were plenty of people who complained about it's "wokeness" because of how they zeroed in on the LGBT relationships and it really felt like the focus on the show was about relationships, not about the overarching journey.

When you're watching Voyager, it's all about the journey and getting home, there's relationships there, but they don't take minutes at a time on screen, it's mixed into the story in small bursts.

I'm still keen to see how they wrap it up after the DMA storyline, maybe piecing the federation back together?

[-] Jon-H558@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but voyager famously has almost 0.chsrecter development in their ten year mission..
Any you do get is reset by a time whimy wipe

[-] roofuskit@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

While I am glad it is ending and I think it is a little past due. Discovery brought Trek back to life and I will forever be grateful to the people who contributed to it.

The show never really found its footing. It's full of great moments and horrible writing. There are story arcs I love and arcs I loathe. But most importantly, it gave us Strange New Worlds.

[-] Jarmer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I hated it because it just wasn't Star Trek. It wasn't the goofiness, it was just that most of the time it made zero sense plot wise, threw the concept of science completely out the window, and spent wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time focusing on petty character drama that felt more fitting in a high school musical show.

It simply wasn't ST. Maybe it would have worked as a high school show about random aliens in outer space doing weird stuff with the spore drive, but don't label that crap Star Trek.

Now Strange New Worlds..... GIVE ME MORE! Can't wait for S2, that show is flat out amazing.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely keen on strange new worlds, I think the more episodic approach where each episode is it's own thing is spot on what was needed.

[-] Jon-H558@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Seen s2e1 and honestly I hope it is a blip, seemed to be going in wrong direction

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