I think this is so interesting...

For a refreshing change, we have corporations coming to the users, not the other way around.

I'm deeply skeptical, but I'm glad communities and hubs have the power to block them outright.

Nope. Money will buy blood.

I mean everyone could just not federate with them, right?

I didn’t know they’d joined. Do you have a source for this?

Bad. I just feel bad.

I think they would take advantage of Fediverse and destroy it.

Just block them from federating and move on.

I'm trying to get away from Facebook and meta. I'd rather they weren't remotely near me at all

News story I looked up. Fuck Meta and all the other money-sucking bastards that want to commodify every breath I take.

https://fediversereport.com/meta-plans-on-joining-the-fediverse-the-responses/

Pros

• more attention to the Fediverse and all the advancement that may bring with it.
• If the Fediverse ever becomes mainstream corporations will end up with their own content on it so having Meta join would provides early insight on how the Fediverse may be effected by becoming mainstream.

Cons

• Some instances may not have the server load to support being federated with Meta
• There's a decent chance it hinders healthy growth (Like a Cuckoo hatchling that starves out the bird's actual children.)

we shouldnt let them in. they would have done decentralized service years ago if there was money in it for them. They either want us to stop or try to seize control in only way that can -> by worming in.

We must have zero-tolerance for corporations or we might as well just give up.

Meta is a corporation with a really horrible track record

and even if they didn't, it's still a corporation; it only cares for profit

I have very negative opinions on them joining

Facebook et al has had a horrible track record of creating a new app/service and getting people on board. Their 3 successes are Facebook, Whatsapp (bought), and IG (bought). Every time they've launched an app outside of these, they failed (IGTV anyone?).

The Fediverse is open.

They can create Threads on activity pub and hope that they can create a server that competes with Twitter. Go for it, who cares. You can choose to follow people there or not, or join or not, or be on a server that defederates from it or not.

That's the beauty of it.

Meta's userbase is diverse. It has good and bad players. No need to broadstrokes it. If people join the Fediverse via Threads, many will discover Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, Calckey etc over time. Discovery & community!

So, like... in conclusion or whatever... everyone needs to chill. IMO.

Stay the fuck away

In general, it's great when companies embrace standards and open source. Though in the case of Microsoft, they just did it to gain the market share (embrace, extend, extinguish).

I'm under no illusion that they would be doing it out of the kindness of their hearts or desire to be compliant with standards.

But..i also don't think I can criticize them yet for wanting to do so.

To paraphrase from a bank robber - Meta is where the users are. If we want open source technology to grow, we need to have users. If you block Meta out of the gate, how do you get their users to transition? IMO, energy should be spent on strategizing how to get the users to transition to open source instances, not getting people riled up to block them immediately.

I view them embracing federation as a good thing.

I also view it as important for the instances I wish to follow to never federate with them.

All instances should defederated with corporation instances ASAP

Corporations already joined the federated internet when they adopted the web.

Even if they wanted to, they can't take over the entire fediverse, that's the point.

keep corporations OUT

Makes more sense for Meta to create their own "Metaverse" than join an open-source network.

Instagram and Facebook already communicate, it won't be too difficult to include WhatsApp into that mix.

If they buy something like Mastodon, it would make better business sense to cut it off from the Federation and sync it with Meta's products instead.

A major company seeing the competitive advantage of joining the fediverse is a great development. I don't expect Meta to act in good faith, but it's an accomplishment nonetheless.

My problem with that is then the fediverse doesn't grow, meta controls the largest instance, and they make money off any posts that go viral here. I have to disagree for those reasons. They can go.

Makes no difference to me. Those who believe they have privacy just because Meta and others don't yet have their own instance are mistaken.

If they join the Fediverse I am leaving. We have made the Fediverse to get away from coorporations like them, letting them join us will defeat the whole point of what we have.

I think we should let them consume Fediverse content but not create it.

If Meta proposes to let Instagram users follow people on Mastodon or whatever, that seems like a reasonable compromise - they get to keep people on their feeds viewing ads and we get more reach - but they shouldn't have the power to leave and take a large % of Fediverse content with them; if you want to make a post, you need to do so from a non-Meta-controlled instance in a non-Meta-controlled app.