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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by GreenEngineering3475@lemmy.world to c/formula1@lemmy.world

VIdeo of the incident: https://files.catbox.moe/thnxon.mp4

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[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 17 points 4 months ago

Safety violations in competitive sessions should always result in a sporting penalty, not a financial one.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

B.s. biased.. Should have gotten time penalty.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 4 months ago

Wow common sense prevailed. It would have been stupid to give a grid penalty to Russell for his team's infraction

[-] safesyrup@lemmy.hogru.ch 11 points 4 months ago

Why? They race as a team, not as an individual. If the pit crew makes a mistake during a pitstop and the driver looses 3 seconds they also lose as a team.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Disagree.

I know it's harsh, and I know it's not Russell's fault so I'm of course sympathetic, but F1 is about more than just drivers, it's a team sport.

Letting the driver off whenever the team breaks a rule would have pretty disastrous consequences. There'd be an incentive to unsafely release, there'd be an incentive to run out-of-spec components, there'd be an incentive to mess with tyre pressures, there'd be an incentive to mess with the fuel load, etc, because these aren't on the driver.

If penalties have no chance of affecting the results, teams will be far more willing to receive them.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Letting the driver off whenever the team breaks a rule would have pretty disastrous consequences. There'd be an incentive to unsafely release, there'd be an incentive to run out-of-spec components, there'd be an incentive to mess with tyre pressures, there'd be an incentive to mess with the fuel load, etc.

I agree with your take in general (though the out-of-specs part usage seems a little too far-fetched). What my point is that it is a minor infraction with little to no bearing on the qualifying session and very little actual risk (as they weren't fighting for position so there is no scramble to minimise time in the pit lane). Giving a grid penalty taking into account the above points would have been unbelievably harsh

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 3 points 4 months ago

F1 is a team sport. You can never penalize only the team or only the driver. By your logic, not the team should be penalized, but the engineer who made the mistake.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 months ago

You can never penalize only the team or only the driver.

Isn't this very penalty proving that statement wrong. Team received a pen and the driver faced no consequences

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago

That's not a penalty, that's a price attached to gaining a sporting advantage.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

And do tell what sporting advantage did merc gain by this¿?

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

Getting out on track first.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Neither piastri nor Russell were first in line. There were a bunch of cars ahead of them. So no advantage as merc didn't get any clean air so to speak

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