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submitted 8 months ago by n3m37h@sh.itjust.works to c/ontario@lemmy.ca

Yay! More BS that only puts us further behind!

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[-] ericbomb@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

I can't even joke without losing my thought at the absurdity.

This isn't moving the goal, this is changing the definition of a goal from getting into the net to the ball being on the field.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

Has the Beaverton written their "Ontario to count tents as housing towards reaching targets" article yet?

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago

When a senior living in a condo moves out to long-term care, it's called a home,” Ford told reporters in March. “They have their own room. They eat in a dining room with everyone else.”

Using this argument, it appears as though the Ford government could try and place student residences under this umbrella.

Does this mean jails are next to be included

[-] CompN12@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

~~Jail~~ house the homeless.

Hey that makes things cheaper!

[-] a9249@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Most people who get into crime do so out of desperation for food and shelter...

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Don't give Doug and his Cronies any ideas

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 16 points 8 months ago

Retirement spaces—okay if it's expected that citizens will live there long-term.

Student residences—specifically intended to be used only for a short, fixed term. These do need to be built, but they are not housing for any useful definition of housing.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They should be built by the universities and colleges that profit off the students. They certainly should not be getting subsidized or funded by government as a "housing stimulus" which is what I am worried will happen if they count student residences as housing.

[-] alison@mastodon.online 1 points 8 months ago

@FireRetardant @nyan That said being in a university city they chew up a grotesque amount of available housing.

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

That would depend on the higher order effects of constructing more student housing. Will it lead to more students coming into the province to study or more of those who already live in the city to move out? If yes, then that needs to be accounted for. If not, then it makes sense to count this like any other housing because students will still need a place to stay and will be competing with other residents for the same rentals, thus lowering supply. More student housing means more of other rentals available on the market.

It would also depend on whether or not there's already enough student housing available. There's no point in building more if there aren't enough interested students to fill it.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

next up: cardboard boxes under bridges

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/city-crews-clear-encampment-under-gardiner-expressway-homeless-1.5054918

Pretty sure the government would just rather their current citizens die so they can bring in people from 'lesser countries ' who will be more willing to slave it up because it's still better then their previous lifestyle.

[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Child care and education for the first two decades of life are a big investment with uncertain returns (esp. if employing businesses are allowed to exploit parents, contributing to trouble at home that also hurts kids).

We have increasingly detached leaders who just want certain numbers to look better in an unhinged and inhumane economic system. That makes it mighty tempting to bring in adults whose upbringing and education were paid for elsewhere.

But beware fascist agitators (or their dupes) who don't really care about people and just want to stir up division by making this about "invasions" and other racist and divisive BS. In fact in most, if not all cases, our foreign policy is probably connected at least indirectly to the reasons people feel the need to come here.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

New Ad: The Brick will be giving out free homes from the side door. Take two if you like!

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20240418205926/https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-may-soon-count-student-residences-as-homes-to-reach-housing-goal-1.6839573

The Ford government is trying to fudge data to make it look like they're doing their job. This bell-owned report attempts to paint the Ford government's actions as reasonable, perhaps even proactive, responsive, and creative.

Ontario NDP Leader Marit Stiles criticized the Ford government's choice to include both long-term care beds and student residences in their housing count.

"You can't even have a microwave in a dorm room," Stiles said during question period Tuesday. "My goodness, that is not a home. What's next?"

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Just like the surplus at the end of COVID lockdown.

Look at us, we have all this money lying around.

You you stupid fuck, put the money to use and pay the hospitals.

Doug and his cronies belong in jail

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

100%.

Cons must love this new era, where truth doesn't matter compared to a veneer of verifiability and a few 'reputable' sources trumpeting the same BS

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Goodhart's law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This means they're going to spend millions on building on- and off-campus student housing to take the pressure off the rental market and cool off housing speculation, right?

Right?

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

I am looking into counting taxes I paid in the past as taxes withheld for the current year to meet my 10-year target of owning 1 home.

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

that's the Dougler all right.

Between him and trump i think we need to just round up all the property developers and end the problem.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This just in! Politicians are crooked AF and will do anything to further their own careers!

And it's not like we can have a nice military coup to kick this country into shape because they are plagued by the same bureaucratic, ladder climbing, and corruption.

Can we just have a GPT model run things or maybe sell the entire country to Alphabet? The AI would do at least average compared to all countries it was trained on and Alphabet might even turn a national profit.

[-] SattaRIP@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Give a company that much power and snd they'll absolutely implement slavery.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Most Canadians are already de-facto slaves to a bank, credit company or a combination of the two. Sure you can quit your job but you will get another one lest the person who owns your debt take away your home and anything of value that your own. This leaves you visibly poor and potentially homeless which is a "crime" in Canada. You wont be charged with "being homeless" but you will be harassed, assaulted and arrested until you can find somewhere to hide or die.

Kinda sounds like slavery, particularly when you consider that household debt is now greater than the GDP, collectively we owe more than we produce.

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