If it isn't on your shelves (or server) it isn't your library, it's someone else's access.

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If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.

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Living in Australia means piracy is essentially legal - individuals can only be taken to court for the cost of one physical copy of the pirated media, so companies don't even bother as long as you aren't distributing. The more things in this area get worse, the more justified I feel in filling up my 10TB HDD.

Streaming for things you consume. Offline media for things you like.

Companies should be sued for false advertising if they claim that their streaming service allows you to "buy" or "own" anything (unless their service includes non-DRM downloads for permanent offline storage). All you're buying is temporary use of their rental network and library. Which is fine if that's what you wanted and knew you were getting, but a problem if you were expecting something else.

Should companies work on improving access to services and making sure paying consumers get a better experience?

Nah, let's spend more money paying lawyers to go after a few people, that'll show em.

I think it’s wild how people post “omg I just got this entire series for $299! It was on sale so I had to!” Like in 5 years, you may not even have it! Company goes under. Gets bought out. Or my personal favourite, it becomes unavailable because the owner pulled it over a legal dispute. Like so many songs off Spotify. These companies never get involved like well we got our cash too bad so sad.

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You will own nothing and be happy.

Buy physical media

The other concern is censorship. Essentially a movie that you bought is on a server and then someone's decided that words, content, or scenes are no longer appropriate. The video, song, etc, is different from the original and without any notification. The old scenes get sent to the memory hole. Oh dear Winston, I fear we will meet soon!

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That’s why I’ll keep buying physical for the games or movies I love.

The only question I have is what’s gonna happen as game discs are just becoming an access token to download the game and its updates.

I’d have nothing against digital games or movies if you didn’t see such behaviors.

I've been a user of GOG for a while principally because of the no-drm ability to download a copy of what you bought. When the library starts getting past a certain size though you start to wonder about those things like what if the producer has a falling out and wants to yank it from the platform, does it vanish from my library then too? Are there contracts that say 'forever' when they offer it? Would love to find some 'download all' option to take a full copy offline of the bought items at once but it'd probably overrun the monthly ISP limits even if they had one.

Seen too many things on Netflix or Spotify that I liked vanish because 'fuck off, we can' and although I never anticipated it being 'bought' in those cases it does give a lot of justification to find alternate means to reestablish that access.

Yeah, if it's in "The Cloud" it's NOT yours and it can disappear or be modified without your knowledge or consent at any time.

Buy some external storage and keep copies of everything you care about.

Is there a good way to pay for a download of movies or TV, or should I go back to buying physical and ripping?

Yeah that's why I buy DVDs if it's something that I actually want to keep. I don't mind streaming as long as you understand that you own nothing.

Yeah, got rid of all my CDs a few years ago and now I'm buying them back a bit at the time because of all the stuff that is going out of print and you can no longer stream.

Should have just stored everything.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“We’ve partnered with Fetch as our new entertainment platform and the vast majority of movies or shows customers have bought on their Telstra TV Box Office can be migrated across,” the spokesperson said.

Now firmly in the streaming age, ownership is largely subject to the terms and conditions people often do not read, a lecturer in computing and information systems at Melbourne University, Shaanan Cohney, said.

“It is not reasonable to expect consumers to read these terms and conditions [but] in the case of Telstra TV box office, they had a whole section on how they were able to withdraw content.”

Cohney said there is a strong moral argument – but not a legal one – to explain why people resort to downloading copyright-infringing content via torrent websites.

Users now need to use a virtual private network connection to access these sites, and rights holders argue this hurdle has substantially reduced piracy in Australia.

“It’s having mandatory rules around what kinds of things can be in the terms of conditions … If a provider wants to offer content in a way that is in violation of those, there has to be some substantial indication that it’s in the interests of the consumer as well as very clear disclosure of that particular change.”

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