If you want the small footprint and power costs are a concern, look for a second hand mini computer. Dell, Lenovo, Intel nuc.
Something like this as an example.
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I always thought that mini computer.were more power hungry than SBC. Am I wrong?
Yeah, they're more power hungry, but they're also way more performant than a pi 4.
Thanks.
No but less power hungry than a full desktop. It's a good trade-off between power and performance.
A second-hand used laptop. Or an used Intel NUC.
I'd say it's difficult to buy anything new for $100 that's actually worth spending that money.
I'd recommend one if the Mini PCs like
But that's about twice your budget with a decent amount of RAM and some storage. (And way faster than a RasPi.)
I may have purchased that exact item from Amazon a few months ago. It is 100% worth saving up for a bit to purchase something this good. Debian stable is fully supported. It's currently just my streaming client but it's pretty powerful and sips power compared to off lease desktops or even laptops.
Out of curiosity: Did you measure the idle power consumption?
That's a good point, I actually have not. I came to that conclusion based on the reviews I've read.
An HP EliteDesk G4 mini desktop Is around that much
2nd this. Cheap, upgrade-able, more powerful than the pi, and not limited to ARM. Only thing the Pi has on this is power consumption and GPIO.
I don't think modern Raspberry pi's make much sense unless you are using GPIOs or really need the low power consumption. The 3 and the 4 were OK price wise but the pi 5 is quite close to all these N100 mini computers and they are a lot more performance and expansion compared to a raspberry pi 5 and still quite low power.
Either a Topton or similar N100 based machine or a mini PC second hand is the way to go at the ~$100 mark. The mini PC will be faster and probably more expandable and cheaper but also more power consumption.
I had the same issue as you and I bought a mini PC for under $200 and it works like a charm
Can you tell me the specs?
Look for a used minipc on eBay and similar sites
@VitabytesDev @selfhosted there are miniPCs with Intel's n100 chip 8Gb ram and 256Gb SSD like this one on AliExpress https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006141099278.html at 97€
I don't see anyone mentioning sth power efficient yet, so I will throw my two cents in here; I just ordered an Odroid M1S to take over some jobs from my RPi4 (8GB). Has not yet arrived so I cannot praise it yet but might be worth a look!
Check out the Dell Wyse 5070. You can find them used within your budget.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| NUC | Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers |
| SBC | Single-Board Computer |
| SSD | Solid State Drive mass storage |
3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.
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If you need more ram but not a lot of CPU a used thin client can work, i use a HP t630 since 6 months now with only nextcloud and storage, has 2 ddr4 slots and 2sata m.2(not Nvme) for Expansion. Again its a 4core Pre Ryzen AMD chip so don't expect any Wonders. https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t630/ this is a good side for this and other thin Clients.
Edit: according to HP the idle Power consumption is ~12w
And that’s the problem right there. That’s 12w idle power. The computer is not going to idle all the time and power consumption will rise. If you are like me and live in a place with high cost of power this will add up. The raspberry pi will is at max 9w of power. That’s max. At idle it’s more likely to be around 3 but could be more if you have some usb drives plugged into it.
Maybe consider selling your pi2g and buying a pi4g or 8g.
If your workload doesn't run well on a raspi you cannot use a raspi...
They said they were bumping up to the ram limit on their 2gb pi. I suggested getting a pi with 4 or 8 gb of ram.
Cheapest upgrade? Cram an old Android mobile in the USB port, and run a few services on that via Termux..
I think upgrading the RAM as you mentioned is going to make a big difference. While the physical RAM might be soldered to the motherboard, you could buy a fairly cheap SD card or USB and set the system up to use that as virtual memory. It won't be as fast as actual RAM but it might help and large SD cards are honestly really cheap these days.