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submitted 5 months ago by huf@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

seriously. where are all these masses coming from who think a cat's coloring affects their personality? what the fuck?

even though we're also super racist, this at least is not a thing here. it's never been a thing.

what the fuck.

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[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

I have noticed this. It went from "Look at my dumb orange cat failing to jump onto the wardrobe :)" to "He's orange, ofc he's a low IQ Untermensch" in real time.

I don't think it started maliciously, and yet here we are.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

yeah, i think it's just that the only framework they have for understanding the world is racism, so it naturally gets applied to everything

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago

I used to have an orange cat and he was a very smart boy

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I used to have an orange cat and he was a lazy little himbo who once got a ladybug stuck on his nose.

[-] Jobasha@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

it's not just americans, I live outside the anglosphere and I have been informed by the feline skull measurers that my bicolor cat is genetically destined to be temperamental

[-] huf@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

First time I heard the dumb orange cat stereotype was a few years ago, and I just thought wtf. Literally made no sense to me.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

its a natural extension of racism for dogs

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, don’t forget that all pitbulls are always aggressive 100% of the time. /s

It always come down to racism/bigotry based on nothing.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

come to think of it, anglos have long believed that red haired people have tempers. something like that. so maybe this is just a natural extension of that idiocy.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Anglos think all the stereotypes they grew up seeing in cartoons is total gospel, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

It's because it's become uncouth to just say, "Man, fuck the Irish."

[-] huf@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

i think they had this idea even in the 19th century, and it was certainly popular to say "fuck the irish" back then.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

I think it's mostly harmless though. Like, we say our cats have spicy black cat energy because it's fun and makes us think of Halloween, but ultimately they are spicy because all cats are spicy.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

sure sure, i'm just telling you what this behavior looks like from the outside. according to me. very eminent scholar of these kinds of things, really. honestly.

but seriously, we've had cats since i was ... 5? and i never ever thought of connecting the coloring of a cat to its personality. ever. this never entered the horizon of things to think for anyone i knew in hungary in the 90s. or the 2000s. i first encountered this sort of thinking on reddit a few years ago. the only thing i can relate it to is the stories of people killing black cats because of witches or whatever.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

I guess the language of it comes from the Internet, but for us (mostly my partner) the love of black cats goes back to childhood TV and we ended up rescuing a bonded pair of them. In reality we definitely don't need to be doing cat phrenology

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Agreed, mostly harmless to the animals, but does prove to be a good example of humans incessant need to compete for superiority based on things they don’t control.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Aren’t most calicos females? Aren’t most white cats blind or deaf (don’t remember which)? And aren’t many dog and cat breeds bred to do specific tasks? If such oddities exist then I don’t see why it’s so unbelievable for animals to have different relationships to personality and physical biology than humans. I don’t think people should be trying to apply human sociobiology to animals.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Something like 99% of tortoiseshell cats are female, and other the 1% tend to be intersex and/or sterile. Roughly 80% of orange cats are male. The "clingy but a-little-too-adventurous himbo" traits associated with orange cats are pretty common across male cats, while the "little miss attitude" traits associated with torties (and torbies) are very common among all female cats.

That said, my orange girl absolutely fits the orange cat stereotype. She tries to get on top of doors and is surprised when she can't. The dog is so afraid of her that he will refuse to go near the stairs if she is on them. I've had to pull her out from under the dresser and/or night stand because she got stuck. My wife regularly ends up slimed by Churu splash because this cat will grab her wrist and try to steal the entire Churu pouch during treat time with the other cats.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have a boy black cat that fits the exact description of your orange girl. We joke about him being an orange that baked a little too long.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

yeah, and iirc red cats are mostly males, but the rest is just designer breeds of cats stuff, which is just weird as hell to me. why breed cats? they're perfect as they are. normal local shorthair cats are all the same on average. which means they come in the same range of personalities of course, i'm not claiming they're literally all the same.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

I’m not saying you’re claiming they’re all the same. I just don’t understand the discourse around animal temperament and human racism when humans have practiced eugenics on animals for status or tasks and fucked up their genetics for eons now

[-] huf@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

because there's never been any real intentional breeding done on default cats. if we've fucked up their genetics, it wasnt because we bred them, but because we killed very aggressive ones and kept the cute kittens. much of the evolution of cats among humans was done not as pets but as barn cats (or similar roles), where they are a half-tame half-wild animal that fucks whoever it wants.

cat coat color clearly has nothing to do with anything. the wild cats from which domestic cats come from are all basically tabbies, and it's not like anyone set out to breed cow-spotted black and white cats. all these coats coexist in feral/rural (the line can be hard to draw, with barn cats and such) cat populations and it's just random variance.

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