Mid-Year Internationals - Week 3 (lemmy.nz)

submitted 3 months ago by TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz to c/rugby@sh.itjust.works

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Decided to tweak it from Summer Internationals bc its been freezing & frosty down here in my part of New Zealand!

Tonga vs Italy
Samoa vs Spain
USA vs Scotland
Canada vs Romania
New Zealand vs England
Australia vs Wales
Japan vs Georgia
Namibia vs Portugal
South Africa vs Ireland
Argentina vs France

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[-] Olap@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Well done on beating me to the thread. Sadly quite busy this weekend, not certain what I'll be able to catch. There's the U20s 2nd tier in Edinburgh today also, hoping Scotland top that and get back to the big boys club

Italy by 5

Samoa by 20

Scotland by 50

Romania by 10

NZ by 10

Oz by 20

Georgia by 5

Portugal by 10

SA by 10

France by 10

A lot closer this week! And sorry to hear about the weather, think the game will be affected much? A scrum-fest?

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

Auckland is a further north than where I am and doesn't tend to get the extra frosty mornings we get here. The weather up there today is clear but not especially warm for the middle of winter. At kickoff it'll be around 10C, pretty much no wind. I could be a little dewy but Eden Park is usually a very good track so it won't be heavy underfoot. We're spoilt here in NZ; even at NPC level almost all of our rugby pitches are as good or better than most of the grounds up in the NH; often bigger capacity and usually much better lights too (partly bc a lot of them double for day-night Cricket matches).

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Has Marcus Smith always been this good? He's having a hell of a game so far

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I love that the England coaching team have finally given him the freedom to play with flair.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

But why did they take him off!? When he got to come back on due to the Steward HIA England's attack changed back to being a real threat again.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Beauden Barrett making a huge difference to the ABs two weeks in a row. Perofeta has been good, but BB just brings so much control. I think he's earnt a start, possibly at 10 with DMac on the pine or shifting to 15.

In this series I think the ABs have been out coached, and for most of the match minutes outplayed. Razor's team showing all of their inexperience and not giving much confidence ahead of touring South Africa and the big games up north at the end of the year.

[-] Olap@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

England have been growing, and second halves have both been won by ABs, so don't discount SA yet. BB was amazing off the bench too, such energy

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

Oh im not discounting SA, on the evidence of these two games I'm expecting them to sweep Razor's ABs this year. But, it's still early days and he hasn't had a lot of time with this team yet.

Did you catch the moment where a ruck had formed and one of the English players was doing the usual grab a leg to hold a player in, but it was Nic Berry! :)

[-] _ed@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

Like a light switch. England had all the momentum at that point. Also props to Cortez what a time to come in on debut. Did the job.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah he looked pretty composed and his service from the ruck was very Aaron Smith like.

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I was hoping Scotland would pump the USA to get revenge for 2018 but 42-7 is a good result. Stayed up to watch it but was drinking with friends at the same time so not very clear on the specifics of the game.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago

I read that it was pretty hot, and if the Fiji Drua games in Lautoka have taught us anything its that heat & humidity are just as much a leveller as cold & wet!

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Italy by 12-15
Samoa by 20-25
Scotland by 60-90
Romania by 25-30
New Zealand by 10-15
Australia by 15-20
Georgia by 3-8
Namibia by 5-10
South Africa by 12-20
France by 18-30

I think the best match for fun rugby is probably going to be Australia-Wales again. I'm not a big fan of either Ireland or South Africa's style. But for silly fun Scotland wasting USA could be a good watch too.

I've put NZ-Eng as a close one, but over the last couple of years NZ have had a habit of bouncing back from a close win, or even defeat to put on a clinic. It happened against Argentina & Australia, but England are made of sterner stuff.

With a SH (and very good) referee in Nic Berry i'm hoping for a less stop-start match and a cleaner breakdown/offside line so it could be a pretty exciting match as England's backs are pretty good and Mitchell / Smith work very well off quick ball.

[-] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 months ago

Just checking through the results and my average picking winners was bad this weekend. I'll hide the rest behind spoilers, but I think you could have flipped a coin & done as well as I did. But lets say 1 point for picking the winner & 2 for getting pretty close to the margin, I only got 7/20.

Mentions match results

Got the winner right, but was quite off on the margin for this one. Tonga are a fair bit weaker than Samoa but even though I was expecting Italy to win I didn't think they'd be up by 22 points. (1)
Shocked by the margin here, after last week - but looking through the other results a lot of teams flipped the script from the week before so may Samoa struggled to get up for this game. (1)
Apparently it was pretty hot & humid, and maybe USA are on the rebound after being pretty rubbish in the last cup cycle. (1)
I didn't see this coming at all, I thought Romania would be decent and Canada were very poor last week (0)
Given I was picking a range for the margin I don't think its fair to say that a 7 point win counts as close, but at least the ABs got the job done (1)
At times Australia looked like they were going to romp, but I think the wet weather kept it close (1)
The only one I think its fair to say I was close on, 2 points instead of 3, but Georgia got past Japan. The latter should be pretty unhappy with that, given they're playing at home (2)
I was basically picking the home side here, but maybe at the lower levels its not quite as important. Haven't watched any highlights but the Iberian peninsula seem to be up & coming in the 2nd tier of World Rugby (0)
I thought with the injuries Ireland were carrying into the match that South Africa would get the job done at home; but I guess they picked up early injuries and for whatever reason only scored through penalties (didn't watch the match) which is a bit of a reversion to type after the tries last week. (0)
Given how easily France won last week I picked them to easily win this but not to be. I wonder if all the off field drama disrupted their buildup or if Argentina with time in camp are getting back to the team they can be? (0).

Looks like I missed a couple of matches too:

Chile - Belgium
Paraguay - Hong Kong

I'm going to go with the South American teams in both matches given they're at home and I have a good competition to build experience and combinations now. Lets say Chile by 12, and going on Sco-HK in the U20s, Paraguay by 30.