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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Sal@mander.xyz to c/plantid@mander.xyz

Country: The Netherlands

And... can I use them to make a herbal tea? They smell nice.

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[-] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't have a positive ID for you but it appears to be in the Umbillifer family, some of which are edible in whole (carrots) and some of which are highly poisonous, even to the touch (hemlock). Be careful and don't eat or touch without a positive ID. Many from this family look similar. Wiki

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks a lot!

Don't worry, I am cautious about positively identifying anything before actually putting it near my mouth!

I will admit that I am a bit liberal with the touching and smelling, but I think I take an appropriate level of precautions.

[-] bot@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Automatic identification via PlantNet summary

Most likely match: Daucus carota L.

Common name Scientific name Likeliness
Queen Anne s lace Daucus carota 50.32 %
Queen Anneโ€™s snowflake Daucus muricatus 14.36 %
Rattlesnake-weed Daucus pusillus 8.85 %
Hartwort Tordylium maximum 5.80 %
Queen Anne s Lace (actual commom name) Rouya polygama 4.58 %

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[-] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

From Wikipedia:

The function of the central dark florets of D. carota has been subject to debate since Charles Darwin speculated that they are a vestigial trait.[14] It has been suggested that they have the adaptive function of mimicking insects, thus either discouraging herbivory,[15] or attracting pollinators[16] by indicating the presence of food or opportunities for mating

Alright - so it's not only me who thinks that they look like spiky insects ๐Ÿ˜„

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Well, the spiky insects in the photo are the seeds. They are spiky so that they could easily hook onto animal fur and be carried to new places. The Wiki article talks about flowers โ€“ this is what they mean, it's really cool:

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Ah! Yeah, I failed at reading comprehension here.

I don't see the image you posted, but I looked up "D. carota dark central florets" and I found some images. Cool! I will pay attention to this next time I find them.

[-] tierelantijntje@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago

I agree this is most likely Daucus carota. If you are looking for some tasty herbal teas from Dutch wild plants I can recommend stinging nettle (harvest top 4 young leaves), elderflower (not in season now though..), wild blackberry and wild strawberry. I have some Dutch books about foraging, I will check for more!

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

Thanks! I will look into those! Quite exciting :D

I have foraged and eaten some stinging nettle, but I didn't know it was good for making tea!

Is there a trick to making elderflower tea? The crushed leaves of elder have a very characteristic strong smell that I don't find so pleasant - will the flower tea taste like that?

The blackberry and wild strawberry teas are made from the fruit? Or can tea be brewed from the leaves?

[-] tierelantijntje@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

Stinging nettle tea is supposedly very healthy! I always make stinging nettle soup in the spring, usually there is some Alliaria petiolata growing close by that taste like garlic so that goes in the soup as well. For elderflower tea: dry the flowers, don't eat the stems, leaves or raw fruit as they are poisonous. You can try elderflower lemonade from the supermarket to see if you like the taste, I hate it :P but I use the berries to add to my apples when I make cider (you have to heat the berries to nutralize the toxins, and remove all stems and leaves as they are poisonous).

I use blackberries and wild strawberry fruits in my tea, but my books say you can use the leaves as well.

Other berries you will be able to find: Rosa canina and Rosa rubiginosa: you make tea of the fruits (and jam as well!) For tea from leaves: Betula leaves, Lamium (dovenetel) leaves, Achillea millefolium leaves and flowers, Tilia cordata (linden) blossoms (this is delicious! my favorite tea), wild mint

For some good books and cards to take with you for foraging I recommend you check KNNV Uitgeverij, I have this info from some of their books, I like the 'Wildplukken' series by Peter Kouwenhoven & Barbara Peters. I prefer to get my info on this stuff from books printed by a reputable place that are about our local ecosystem, because there is so much bad information on the internet.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Betula leaves? As in, birch trees?! Their leaves can be used for tea?!

Thanks a lot for sharing all of this info! Wildplukken looks awesome, I've just placed an order :D

[-] tierelantijntje@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, birch trees! I haven't tried it myself. And no problem! I have a big collection of books and love to share :D

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Cool! I'll read about it.

Tilia tea I've tried, but I think I used Tilia americana. I remember that that tee might possibly help to sleep.

The Alliaria petiolata I do see a lot around where I live! There is also a park nearby that has carpets of Allium ursinum, which also taste like garlic. I really like them.

Achillea millefolium is suuuuper common now and easy to find. Such a great list! Thanks again :D

[-] tierelantijntje@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

I cannot confirm nor deny that I have relocated some Allium ursinum from my local forest to my garden ๐Ÿ˜… I have some herb butter I made with it in the fridge now! I make a lot in the spring, and put it in the freezer in small batches for later.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

I have some herb butter I made with it in the fridge now!

Mmmmm, sounds delicious!

[-] Ashiette@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It can be wild carrots, can be hemlock.

First thing to do is look at the stem. If it's hairy you can try to identify it. If it's glabrous (no hair) then it definitely is toxic.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It's not hemlock. You can see involucral bracts in the photo (the green forked leaflets underneath the fruit). Hemlock doesn't have those. Be carefull if you think you found a hemlock - it can cause poisoning from skin contact alone, so it's better to investigate it without touching it.

[-] Ashiette@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

Ah didn't know about those, thanks !

I edited my comment and changed "touch" for "look at". You're right, if it's hemlock it's better not to touch it.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Cool observation about the hair! Thanks

I will study more details about the wild carrot and hemlock and I'll inspect the plant better next time I walk by.

[-] Ashiette@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

If it's wild carrot you can mix the flowers (opened white ones) in batter and fry it. Tastes delicious.

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