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It's very clear that TikTok causes brain rot:

hours upon hours of scrolling;
damaged attention spans;
boring lip sync "memes";
whatever the fuck my little brother is watching;
KKKringy song over equally KKKringe footage;
TWs for almost literally anything. I've seen [TW: Aesthetic];
iPad kids

You know? This applies to YT shorts. Now my attention span is so short I can't even read theory for 5 minutes without thinking "What's on TikTok?"

Let's not even forget the KKKringe-ass use of 733tspeak, wtf man.

If I ever have kids, I'd waste my entire bank account just to stop them from getting in this hellhole of a site.

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[-] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Yes, TikTok is a nightmare and pushes ideology, softcore pornography, mindless dopamine hits and affects children of several countries. The Chinese company takes the opportunity that there are no legislation to regulate the content of these social media, so they push the most addictive content possible, in hopes to profit from marketing.

China has a regulation of social media, hence why the Chinese TikTok (Douyin) does not push this kind of content in the country.

[-] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I plan on having TikTok banned after the revolution.

[-] felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just try not to fuel the ideological discourse to ban TikTok because this serves the interest of US monopolies on social media, who directly benefit from the banning of TikTok and regain monopoly on discourse and public opinion. More like opposition to banning but a demand to regulate TikTok, is a much better discourse. In fact, a regulation on social media in general.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

US state department already has full control over the ideological bent of TikTok. Regardless of what the media and reddit brainlets say, the CPC does not control TikTok. The version of it used in China is called Douyin or something like that and is governed by a different set of rules.

TikTok was being forced to sell ownership to an American holder. I think Oracle and Microsoft were in contention at one point. Suddenly this requirement was relinquished and some NATO folks were given key position in TikTok. Mintpress News article about it.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This context becomes even more important to know in light of the recent moves in the EU and Canada to block TikTok from being installed on government devices. Blocking all social media on such devices makes sense, both in terms of productivity and security. Blocking one app because it's associated with China in everyone's head is just another bit of the current yellow peril propaganda campaign.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The version of it used in China is called Douyin or something like that and is governed by a different set of rules.

There's a ridiculous take I've heard libs make based on this information. They say that the reason Douyin and TikTok have different rules isn't because, as you pointed out in your second paragraph, TikTok is beholden to the U.S. Rather, it's because TikTok is a weapon by the see see pee to make American children braindead. Douyin not being cancer is considered as evidence that this is the case.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Social media*

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Nah, we’ll just have completely change the incentives the algorithms run on, making them less addictive and terrible. I’m not saying shitposting needs to exist into eternity, just that mass communication is helpful, and it’s nice to be able discuss and share things all around the world.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I don't see how it can become less addictive. The algorithm feeds you content based on the things you like and are interested in, that's the reason it's addicting. Unless they change the algorithm to give you content you actively dislike (which doesn't make sense) it simply can't become less addicting.

There needs to be a complete paradigm shift in social media for it to be healthy.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

That’s what I mean, a complete overhaul of the algorithms.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It could be that no or very little algorithms is the answer. Kind of like what lemmy does for sorting posts and comments.

"Sort posts in reverse chronological order" and "Sort posts by most recently commented on" are algorithms, but not the kind that will try to trap you in an endless loop of consooming content.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I think social media in general is a double edged sword. It’s great in so many ways but due to the lack of teaching critical thinking it makes the spread and infection of disinformation very effective. My TikTok feed is usually pretty good but I have had the occasional anti-China, or just super Liberal stupidity pop up here and there but I just click not interested and move on. My main issue is with YouTube shorts. That’s where all the reactionary shit is. I swear to. God no matter how often I flag those types of shorts they still keep coming! I’ll be watching Dimension 20 shorts and then BOOM I see Amala Ekpunobi telling me how she was “trained to be a victim” because of other kids touching her hair. I know that treating a black person’s hair as just something you can gawk at and touch as you please is racist, but Ekpunobi was using the worst example of this situation ever. I’m almost 100% certain she was not sincere with her story. Anyway the comments were eating it up, as usual, so I proceeded to whisk that shit away and then report a shit ton of her videos because they are disgusting shit.

[-] makotech222@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Have you ever considered that I like getting constant dopamine hits?

[-] Elara@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've never really liked short-form content, I find it boring. For some reason, everyone my age seems to be obsessed with it. I don't understand why. The only social media I use is Lemmygrad and Matrix with an occasional comment on Reddit. I haven't even charged my phone in months because I find phones useless for anything but calling people when it's absolutely necessary.

[-] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yea, looks like I have to use family guy pipeline technique to radicalize people.

[-] TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This is interesting, I've noticed this too, specifically on TikTok. "Good" content creators (those who share Parenti lecture clips, information on theory, or just educational content) have to pair it with a video game or something at the bottom to keep people seeing/watching/stimulated. It's fucked up, imo

[-] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

damn your feed sucks. TikTok is awesome. I get great political content, good recipes, and funny stuff. The only good network. Get Kuaishou as well.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I think the point is that the vast majority of mainstream TikTok is brainrot and it can harm your ability to concentrate even if you’ve found some decent content.

[-] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Hard disagree. You say you haven't even used the app. It's way better than IG, YT, Discord combined. China's apps are just better. The 'crap' you are seeing is based on personal algorithms, my algorithm is awesome. TT isn't just some niche community, it's massive worldwide and the worst aspects are easily avoidable and are just indicative of the western majority... I use it to 'search' for more useful information more than regular search engines. Most westerns have no conceptual media training and it shows.

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