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Discovering I2P torrents using BiglyBT (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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How do you use BiglyBT to discover I2P torrents from different trackers? I tend to just go to postman.i2p and discover torrents there, but I want a way to discover torrents using BiglyBT and I2P. I know that BiglyBT has DHT capabilities, does that work over the I2P network to discover torrents (Perhaps through Swarm Discovery?)

Any seasoned captains out there?

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[-] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 months ago

Today I learned about the i2p project! Looking forward to trying this out. Sadly I have nothing to share to help answer, but thank you for raising your question

[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 months ago

Welcome! I2p is a pretty cool project and it has way more uses than for torrenting, but i was drawn to it for that purpose when I started out.

https://geti2p.net/en/about/intro

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

I recommend using i2pd, a more performant and stable version, rewritten in C++, instead of the normal I2P client, which is written in Java and can sometimes have performance issues.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

According to the docs there's some kind of search functionality built into it: https://github.com/BiglySoftware/BiglyBT/wiki/MetaSearch

Off-topic: I haven't tried i2p in years and have never used BiglyBT. Out of curiosity, what download speeds are you seeing?

[-] Staubsaugernasenmann@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 months ago

Depending on the number and kind of seeders I would say that I can download a "normal" movie (2-3 GB) in arround 4-12 hours (sorry that i dont have some real numbers, I could check again later for that). So you probably won't be able to say "hey, i just saw this new i2p-torrent, lets quickly download it" but its defenitly usable, especially when building a library. The "worst" torrent I downloaded was like 50 GB of House M.D. that was seeded by just a single person, but after roughly 1,5 -2 Weeks it was done!

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Hmm, so looks like around 100kB/s. That's about what I remember (100kB/s - 300kB/s).

I've recently been trying out Tribler, and it's much faster than the last time I tried it (I've seen 2MB/s on popular torrents, but around 500kB/s on less popular). Not sure if there are simply more exit nodes with more bandwidth now or if there are more people on the Tribler network seeding.

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

is i2p even worth it anymore? I checked a while back and it seemed pretty dead. not too many people at all

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 17 points 4 months ago

What's with "anymore"? It's still actively developed, there are regular releases of both the original Java I2P router and the 3rd party C++ router, if you mean that.

If you mean that it lacks content, please do upload there if you have something. If you already have the content on disk, it should only really take effort while you're just starting to create torrents.

Don't forget that

I2P is the only semi-popular mixnet that's suitable for torrents
nobody will know it's you who are uploading, so unless you upload info about yourself or you're living in an extremely nonfree country (in which case the Java based router will set itself to restricted mode), you can't really get into trouble for that

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

I mean piracy activity wise, it seems fairly head. maybe im just remembering differently since pirating was a bit less popular, but it feels like it was more healthy in the past.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

Well, tracker2.postman.i2p just told me upon loading it that it's under heavy load. In the past few days it seems to have a steady 1-2 dozen new torrents a day. The site has statistics but seemingly only for the past day, however this is roughly what I expected, or maybe less.

[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Well, tracker2.postman.i2p just told me upon loading it that it’s under heavy load. In the past few days it seems to have a steady 1-2 dozen new torrents a day. The site has statistics but seemingly only for the past day, however this is roughly what I expected, or maybe less.

Im talking more about the total amount of users/swarm size. it didn't have much list I checked, aside from a couple really popular torrents hitting around maybe 2-3k peers.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

Hmm. I'm new enough that I don't know past trends, so possibly. How far in the past you mean?

It would be interesting, if there was some kind of metric of activity, to see what effect it had when qbittorrent added support. Unfortunately it's still very clucky and incomplete, but that's mostly on libtorrent as I understand. Sometimes I wonder how would it be if it worked better, with DHT support.

[-] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s still very active. Postman.i2p has new content every day

[-] ChonkaLoo@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

I've tried it. I like the idea of Tor for torrents, you don't need a VPN to torrent. But found the speeds to be really bad and the content was a fraction of the clearnet trackers. Might check it out again though it's been a while.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Shouldn't it technically be possible to set this up with bitmagnet? Does anyone have experience with that?

[-] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Currently not possible. Bitmagnet would need to have new code to be able to properly talk to the mainline java I2P service to enable DHT over I2P bittorrent. Or the Bitmagnet devs could develop their own I2P service to talk to the I2P network but that might be even more dev work.

https://github.com/bitmagnet-io/bitmagnet/issues/303

Per https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent

DHT support requires SAM v3.3 PRIMARY and SUBSESSIONS for TCP and UDP over the same session. This will require substantial development effort on the client side, unless the client is written in Java. i2pd does not currently support SAM v3.3. libtorrent does not currently support SAM v3.3.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 0 points 4 months ago

I don't use biglybt because I don't have that much RAM. That is, I do have, but fucking windows is fucking aggressive with swapping for some fucking reason.