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Piracy is bad. (lemmy.world)

It is illegal and immoral. It steals the rightful intellectual property of directors and developers who are only trying to make a living. If you want to be a thief so badly, then rob a federal bank.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Is it wrong to take food from a grocery store that would otherwise be thrown away? The grocery store isn't losing anything except potential future revenue.

[-] aelwero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the basic premise for a lot more people than will claim it or understand it...

Let's take a bin full of potatoes. Everyone's gonna pick the best potato. They'll dig around, examine, inspect, and pick the good ones. The shitty scruffy looking ones get left sitting there, and don't nobody who runs a shop wanna just wait until all the potatoes get chosen. They bring out new ones constantly to keep the bin full and have options available so people can pick the best ones.

Maybe once in a great while someone's buying potatoes for their pigs, and they look for crappy ones. Maybe once in a great while someone needs 200 potatoes and they don't wanna sit there being Picky Ricky for four fucking hours. Maybe once in a great while those crappy potatoes actually get chosen... but how often? Not very...

Netflix is that bin of potatoes. Is it wrong to pirate movies that are available on Netflix instead of paying Netflix? Well, it kinda depends on the fucking potato, don't it? You'll pay the $30/mo or whatever it is for a game of thrones, because you're getting what you pay for, and pirating that is definitely depriving Netflix of some value in its investment, but if you pirate billy bobs country bunker hour special from 1993, you're not taking jack shit from Netflix, it's an old wrinkly ass potato that's been sitting in the bin for a long ass time while people spent their money on better potatoes, fun it'll never make a goddamn penny for netflix. It's only value is adding quantity to the bin.

When it gets old enough that they'll throw it away, the deprivation of value has been reduced to being trivial. Your point is valid imho

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[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

And I agree. However, when youtube decides to make you watch an ad every 2 minutes, you stop caring

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

As a general rule I actually agree, even if it’s a bit complicated and not black & white

[-] Agingtoofast@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I read it as “privacy is bad” and was so confused.

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[-] StarServal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Theft has a very strict legal definition. Piracy is not legally theft. It is legally infringement, a separate crime. Conflating one with the other is propaganda by the largest IP holders.

These largest IP holders want nothing more than to lock up all culture and rent it back to you for a price, indefinitely. They would happily steal from you without a moment’s hesitation. In fact, they have stolen from you. They’ve successfully extended copyright terms to an absurd length, preventing works from entering the public domain for decades.

Many of these IP holders also don’t care about preservation. They’ll happily let their works be lost to history. Some are actively fighting against preservation.

Is it immoral to infringe? Yes. But IP holders don’t have the moral highground. They’re just as bad, if not worse. (I’m talking about the multi billion dollar companies here, not the small business persons struggling to get by)

[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hunt criminals. Modern life as a whole is pretty criminal. You realize your tax money has gotten civilians killed right? All tax payers have blood on their hands for essentially paying other people to murder for them so they don't need to do it themselves and so they can create the apps and movies people pirate. It's fucked from begining to end. There's no such thing as holy unless you live in the woods and never touch the rest of humanity.

We are all immoral with no authentic values. Just indoctrinated to think we're more special than others and literally pay people to kill for us.

[-] oldGregg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Keep up the good work, Dog!

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[-] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That reminds me ...I need to re-dye my hair.

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Piracy does not steal from the directors and creators, but from the distributors whose have already bought the rights. The distributors who attempt to create artificial scarcity, excessively monetize your attention, and in generally act hostile to their consumers. There used to be a pact between distributors extracting money from consumers while leaving the content in a desirable state, but greed ruined that. I don’t mind some ads, but we’re way beyond reasonable. I don’t mind phased rollouts, but actively preventing people from watching just because of their location? I don’t mind things not being shown, but the whole concept of stoking FoMO “before it goes into the vault for next generation”, is just wrong. I don’t mind attempts to copy protect, but paying your politicians to turn a civil matter into criminal and use govt resources to protect your artificial scarcity is just so wrong.

I prefer not to pirate. I used to think policy was wrong when there was some balance between distributors and consumers. However greed ruined that. Greed made distributors take and take. It is not wrong to steal from such corrupt unethical businesses. They’re not worthy of respect

[-] cacheson@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

then rob a federal bank.

Illegalist anarchists have entered the chat.

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[-] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 points 1 year ago

steals the rightful intellectual property of directors and developers

Software piracy from an independent or small studio, maybe.

Movie piracy? Everyone working on the film got paid for their work. What you're 'stealing' is the profits from a megacorp that's making more money year-on-year than ever before while still paying those in the industry terribly because they can.

Your hot take is a bit flawed.

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