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Uncommitted movement: Trump remains biggest threat, not Democrats (www.middleeasteye.net)

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[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 55 points 2 months ago

“But within the context of our broken electoral college system, we know that voting a third party is ultimately inadvertently supporting Trump”

Wow, that’s going to be crushing news to certain folks who clog our feeds with claims to the contrary.

On a serious note, I am happy that they recognize this and encourage everyone to pressure the new administration next year to address this. Democrats are imperfect but are at least susceptible to popular and organized pressure. The same cannot be said for the GOP or even more especially Trump. And push for some form of ranked choice voting and getting rid of the electoral college.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

No this is a couple weeks old but Linky and Monk are still at it. I guess they will just say the Uncommitted movement supports genocide. Or refuse to address it, that seems like the other likely possibility.

Sept. 19: https://www.npr.org/2024/09/19/g-s1-23736/uncommitted-movement-no-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Exactly this. But you'll never find them admitting to it, they'll have amnesia.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

"However, that’s not to say that White House officials or Democratic Party staff have heeded their calls for an immediate and permanent ceasefire, an arms embargo on Israel, and a lifting of the 17-year-old blockade on the Gaza Strip."

The White House has absolutely zero control over an immediate and permanent cease fire, or lifting the Gaza blockade, that's all on Israel to do and they're not interested.

We could enact an arms embargo, which would do nothing. Israel would continue producing their own weapons and obtain more from equally "on the outs" nations.

[-] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 17 points 2 months ago

They have power all right. It's quite simple: tell the nazi that he's on his own. That's it. The moment the nazi loses his "I'll call dad" card, we'll see how well he goes in the territory.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago

The White House was able to bring down a shit ton of sanctions on Russia after the invasion of Ukraine. There iia no reason they couldn't do the same after Israel began razing Gaza.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They could, if they wanted to lose every penny of support from the single most powerful lobby in American politics:

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus?ind=Q05

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

White House has absolutely zero control over an immediate and permanent cease fire, or lifting the Gaza blockade, that's all on Israel

The white house has plenty of influence over israel, they've just chosen to green light the genocide and netanyahu's regional escalation against the advice of our own experts.

An arms embargo would empower anti-netanyahu voices in israel who could point to his mismanaging of israel's most important bilateral. It would reduce the rate and kind of weapons the idf could bring to bear against civilians, saving lives.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Bibi doesn't give two shits what our opinions are, he's made that clear repeatedly.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

Because he knows Biden will support him anyway. If Biden had some balls Netanyahu would never be able to do that shit.

[-] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's an important point (because as always Trump is worse), but the vast majority of people who criticise the dems policy on Israel already know and acknowledge this. The mole hill of the few people dumb enough to vote 3rd party/vote Trump over this is being made out to be a mountain by people who would rather laser-focus on that small issue than acknowledge that their preferred candidate is supporting a genocide.

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