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feddit.online will live on as a PieFed instance (hear-me.social)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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There used to be a Kbin instance called feddit.online, which was shut down. @Jerry@hear-me.social just announced on Mastodon, that he brought feddit.online back to life, this time using PieFed. PieFed is a pretty neat alternative to Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin, created by @rimu@piefed.social and of course it's fully free and open source on Codeberg: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi
It has some cool features like “Topics”, which are basically groups of multiple communities that you can view all at once (similar to these Lemmy feature requests: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113).

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Great news!

Edit : sad to see the first comment being really negative

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I'm not really sure why they say that, looking at it the UI looks pretty sleek

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's great!!

I love PieFed - hopefully this instance will be a success! It's nice to see something other than the flagship. PieFed seems pretty flexible, so it'll be fun to see what another instance makes of it.

I would warmly recommend checking it out!
(That's https://feddit.online and https://piefed.social)

[-] MxRemy@piefed.social 13 points 2 months ago

I migrated to the flagship PieFed instance a while ago and haven't regretted it at all. This place rocks! I would love it if there was an app though, not a big fan of PWAs lol. If I was smarter, I'd try to make one myself. Very exciting to see more instances popping up!

[-] rimu@piefed.social 18 points 2 months ago

We're working on it :)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your work!

[-] hitstun@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

Whoa... !FloatingIsFun@fedia.io looks really good in PieFed's tile views! It's kind of what I was going for with my CSS. I think PieFed has a ton of potential, and I want to mess around with it more.

@Jerry@hear-me.social, if you just saw a spike of like 1GB of data getting federated in, that was me manually retrieving my first few hundred posts.

Edit: Oops, I tagged the wrong instance admin named Jerry!

[-] Jerry@hear-me.social 5 points 2 months ago

@hitstun @rimu @Andromxda
Wow. You're right. The display is beautiful! I never saw any communities that showed this feature so well!

I'm glad you joined the server! Welcome.

And a GB is but a drop. Don't worry about resource usage.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

It very much does, I didn't even know they had that view!

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 months ago

is that view native to piefed?

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Looks like it, piefed.social had it too

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 months ago

Cool!

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

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[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

There's plenty of NSFW content on lemmysnfw.com, I can understand why someone would block NSFW instances for their project flagship instance

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 2 months ago

If this is so important to you, you are still very much free to start your own instance and see how far it goes.

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The problem is not code. The problem is that no one wants to take this responsibility. Every one wants to talk about supportive they are on sex positivity until some men in uniform knocks on their doors because they are running a website that is available for minors all around the world.

Also, I don't even want to get in the discussion of "sex positivity" being associated with "easily available porn". Like you said, porn is easy to find and I really doubt that the someone who is savvy enough to use Lemmy would have trouble to know where it is.

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Do you think the availability of porn within an online space has no effect on what kind of culture develops there?

Of course it does have an effect, but there is a difference between "can be found" and "should be encouraged to be treated on equal footing as any other community forum".

Much like "absolute freedom of speech" platforms that inevitably end up catering to people who want to say only repulsive things without repercussion, what do you think will happen if you create an online space and put a big billboard saying "here you will always be free to share your NSFW content"?

Content discovery of porn should not be as easy and it should not be trivialized under the pretense of "sex positivity". One can have an absolutely open mind about sex and sexuality while still wanting to keep a clear boundary of when/how/whom to talk about it.

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 2 months ago

advocating for them to be treated on absolutely equal footing; they're specially marked so that people who don't

You lamented the fact that unlogged users can not see it and that they can not be found as easily. This is the same as "make it available to the public without any type of check".

It's treating sexuality as something toxic

Sexuality != Porn, and "toxicity" is dose-dependent. Eating a bit of broccoli is good for you. Too much at once and you get thyroid dysfunction.

There are plenty of things that are good and normal, but need to be discussed/presented with a proper context and (most importantly) people need to have a better understanding of the potential bad consequences if it is abused or corrupted.

You don't see young people destroying their lives because they were promised they could make a lot of money by knitting sweaters or working as electricians, but cases of vulnerable women who regret getting into sex work are infinite.

[+] cacheson@piefed.social 0 points 2 months ago

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 2 months ago

“If you think sex workers ‘sell their bodies,’ but coal miners do not, your view of labor is clouded by your moralistic view of sexuality.”

If you are going to start a conversation by attacking a strawman, then I really will not get into it.

acting in commercial porn is just as normal and unremarkable as any other job

If this is your idea of being "sex positive" then I really do not want to get into this argument. I can guess this will quickly play out to any objection as "pearl clutching" and I will stick to the point that your attitude is completely dehumanizing and that there is nothing "positive" about reducing sex to the mechanical/physical act.

Like I said in the first comment, if you feel so strongly about this, go ahead and create your own and see how far it goes. When you start putting some Skin In The Game you will get more credibility or at least accept that things are Just Not That Simple.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Behold! (nsfw) - no login required, just an “are you 18+?” prompt, which is pretty standard.

I just tried, it's the same on https://lemmynsfw.com/

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is good news that the instance is back up again. But as an Outsiders pov, I'm going to be super hesitant on wanting to interact with the instance since it's already proven to be shut down once.

Being said, I love to see people monopolizing on better technology that have more feature sets, and honestly it looks pretty dang cool

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

It seems it shut down over Kbin developments. I guess it could have done its users a favour by changing to Mbin, but still... Fair enough. I'm hopeful :)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Jerry also operates fedia.io, which runs Mbin

[-] andrew_s@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

That's a different Jerry! (Jerry Bell)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

Aaah, I got confused!

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 3 points 2 months ago

Perfect! I was looking for a PieFed instance for my next alt.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -4 points 2 months ago

Definitely not for me. The UI looks worse than Lemmy, which I already can't get behind.

[-] andrew_s@piefed.social 16 points 2 months ago

PieFed has some design principles, including being accessible on lower-end devices and for those with unreliable bandwidth, which mean that it's default UI is never going to look like apps which involve downloading a sizable chunk of Typescript.

I'm okay with its look. Partly because it's themeable, and there's a theme called 'Card Shadow' which looks more modern imo. And partly because Lemmy can feel quite slow showing 20 posts at a time, whereas PieFed throws 100 at a time. And also because there will eventually be an API, allowing people to view it how they want (similar to Lemmy - lemmy-ui is maybe not that great, but there's other frontends which I think are an improvement)

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

I'll stick with mbin.

[-] andrew_s@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

Fair enough. I'm not trying to recruit you, or present rivalries where none exist. We can communicate reasonably well regardless of whatever platform we prefer, which is the whole point of this Fediverse thingy anyway.