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  1. They sided against the USSR's correct view that socdems were the moderate wing of fascism

  2. They support Ukraine during the Donbass War

  3. Elke Kahr, a notable member: a) Distances herself from the USSR and other AES countries b) Says the DotP is an "outdated idea that needs to be broken down"

In conclusion, why does the KPOe keep making so many bad takes

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[-] huginn@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, not every party that calls itself communist is actually communist

[-] b34n5@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I’d say that those types of positions belong to the variant called Eurocommunism. After all, it’s a fairly revisionist conception of communism.

[-] Arlaerion@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In a thread concerning the EU elections I asked a similar thing https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4768070/4417708

Ah yes, i know the KPÖ. They are “eurocommunists”. They associate with the “Party of the European Left” at the EU level. This puts them firmly in the camp of pro-EU social democrats. They are fully on board the anti-Russia bandwagon on the Ukraine issue.

They have made a conscious choice to fall in line. That is the price many of these kinds of parties believe they have to pay in order to be allowed a seat at the table. They do what they think they have to do in order to be allowed to acquire political power in the bourgeois system.

The communist party here got pressured since the death of Stalin to distance from him or the comminust politics of the USSR. Nowadays most Austrians think communism is something evil, as in every aspect of it, but mostly Stalinism. Over time and with pressure from mainstream opinion they alligned with the burguois parties in most aspects. The KPÖ are now more right leaning than the social democrats of austria 50 years ago, while those (SPÖ) decided to get even more conservative and corrupt.

It actually looks like a textbook example of moving the overton window.

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

are the PdA more based tho?

[-] Jusog@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

The PdA is a dogmatic party that does not participate in any practice. So they may think well of Stalin, but what use is that if their positions are not influenced at all by practical work? All they do is sit and bullshit about how it's revisionist to even participate in elections and that we need a revolution; and they do nothing beyond that.

[-] Jusog@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Talking to members of the KPÖ can be exhausting; any time one speaks positively about Stalin or AES, one is met with criticism. In my experience, the Communist Party is a mix of different camps, and while there is a small group of anti-German scum who are pro-Israel, this is fortunately a very limited faction.

The KPÖ in Styria, however, differs notably from the broader organization. I think 2004, the Styrian KPÖ diverged from the rest of the party to some extent, due to ideological differences, for instance, on the EU. Though recent election campaigns have shown improved unity. Politically, I find the Styrian KPÖ to be more based compared to, for example, the Vienna branch, and it is also centralized in its operations, differently from the Vienna branch, as it depends on large part on the initiative of individual members, which is the case for most KPÖ organisations.

The National Council election campaign and results showcase a few other flaws within the KPÖ, namely, that it is social democratic, as it stands. If you look at the KPÖ election program, you'll notice the absence of a clear class standpoint. While they critique “excess profits,” they fail to address the root causes behind these issues. Also, the party's national focus on housing, though regionally relevant (such as in Vienna), was a really stupid choice for a primary campaign issue on the national stage. This explains why only 18% of KPÖ voters supported the party based on its program, while the radical right-wing FPÖ gained 60% of its voters specifically because of its program, first and foremost its position on migration.

In Vienna, KPÖ chose to run with a left-liberal party called LINKS, because they feared that they may not get enough votes. This decision, made by a few long-time members without broader consultation, was widely criticized and has since been viewed as a mistake by, I'd say, most members, not however those that made the choice, mind you. Additionally, the KPÖ simply doesn't have any implementation of Criticism and Self-Criticism, which makes identifying and correcting errors within the party challenging.

It is worth noting that the KPÖ was once Austria’s wealthiest party, benefiting from the economy of the GDR, including profits from Turmöl, which flowed in a big part to the KPÖ. After the fall of socialism, Germany pursued lawsuits against the KPÖ, claiming that KPÖ’s assets were German property. These legal battles continued until relatively recently, forcing the KPÖ to sell significant land and property to cover the legal costs. I think one has to take that into account.

On a positive note, the faction pushing to remove "communist" from the party name has essentially disappeared. While very few older members may still harbor this view, it’s no longer taken seriously, they're essentially dying out.

Despite the challenges posed by the diverse nature of the KPÖ, we Marxist-Leninists find an opportunity here. The KPÖ is currently quite malleable, and there is a chance to reshape it into a genuine workers' party. I personally believe this transformation is achievable. At one point, an attempt was made to create an alternative to the Communist Party of Austria by forming the PdA, the Partei der Arbeit. This failed, however, because the PdA became dogmatic.

To answer your question more directly now, IMO the "bad takes" stem from its ideological fragmentation, historical compromises, and a lack of strong Marxist-Leninist principles guiding its decisions. The party’s structure is loosely centralized, and different branches exhibit varying political directions, which weakens overall cohesion and leads to inconsistent stances. This has led to policies and alliances, such as those with left-liberal groups, that compromise a strong class-based foundation. To add insult to injury, the absence of Criticism and Self-Criticism within the KPÖ stifles internal growth and ideological clarity.

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Wdym the PdA became dogmatic?

[-] Coco0330@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The KPOe (At least present) is like an Austrian version of the JCP in Japan. (And I'm sure the JCP also opposes Russia.)

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

I heard that Graz branch is much better than the rest of the party.

[-] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Kahr is from the Graz branch tho

[-] Sausage@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Cuz they’re Austrian.

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