It's the same story every four years: Liberals say you MUST hold your nose and vote for Democrats. Chomsky, Mehdi Hasan, and that guy from Know Your Enemy podcast come to mind. If you don't vote, the worst will happen, like gloves-off fascism. My argument is that the Dems have a shitty record doing anything to stop fascism anyway (or simply conduce it!), with Gaza's destruction, raising police budgets, strengthening the military, increasing deportations, teasing the border wall, etc. I am also looking at a headline now about Kamala "Offering Trans People Almost Nothing." Nevertheless, liberals are very much invested in hypotheticals right now: If Trump wins, everything will be worse in those examples above. I'm not voting for Democrats anyway, but if pressed: What would you say the most realistic doomsday scenarios of a Trump win would be? I lack the imagination here, because while I wouldn't say the parties are 100% identical, the Dems have zero problems always moving further and further to the right (today they're the party of Cheney and Bush's cabinet, lol).