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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

To declare a "National Emergency", he probably needs a cause. How does American law deal with those "National Emergency" situations? Does he need some proof? Does he need confirmation from somewhere?

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago
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[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

He’s not going to succeed at his goals unless he essentially suspends the constitution. Which I wouldn’t put past him necessarily but for now these headlines are pretty sensational.

Everybody is protected by the fifth amendment regardless of citizenship status or if they are here “legally” or not. We’re all entitled to due process and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure so long as we’re standing on American soil. Running after families just minding their business and demanding papers please is far fetched. Going after already established criminals however is a lot easier and low hanging fruit. And I’m not talking about people who’s only crime is being here illegally, I’m talking about people who are that + another crime. And sorry but I don’t feel sympathy for those people who make life harder for everyone else…

Even if they do go after everyone they don’t have the infrastructure in place to process people. The highest deportations happened under Obama (take that, hysterical pissing in their pants liberals) at 230k a year and the system was barely functioning and is further backlogged now than ever. How the fuck is trump gonna manage to deport a million a year?

He’s full of hot air. Hell deport criminals and claim a win.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

I would be honestly less concerned if I thought the administration would be successful in deporting people. I think you're relying heavily on "due process" here, when the reality is they can just accuse you of a crime, deny you bail, and then hold you pretty much indefinitely. You let the ones who can get lawyers out and you've pretty effectively filtered the population for wealth.

The Nazi death camps started as temporary internment camps with the intent to deport Jews eventually.

Then they just ended up with a whole bunch of people in camps with nowhere to send them and were like, "well, we might as well get some work out of some and kill the rest" and it sort of escalated from there.

Which with their "camps for the mentally ill, homeless, and drug addicted" and "deportation emergency" sounds alarmingly similar.

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

First sentence: unless he suspends the constitution

I’m not saying the rhetoric isn’t concerning, I’m saying he doesn’t have the machine set up to make it happen. Could it happen? Absolutely.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Gee, I wonder what the solution will be if other countries wont take our undesirables.

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[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Well at least we're getting close to a somewhat interesting dystopia. /s

[-] m_f@midwest.social 39 points 1 day ago

Wrong community. This dystopia is about get real interesting, real fast 😬

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[-] dorumon@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Please deport me harder orange man.

[-] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Dear, dear. What has the world come to?

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