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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

To declare a "National Emergency", he probably needs a cause. How does American law deal with those "National Emergency" situations? Does he need some proof? Does he need confirmation from somewhere?

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago
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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Gee, I wonder what the solution will be if other countries wont take our undesirables.

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[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

He’s not going to succeed at his goals unless he essentially suspends the constitution. Which I wouldn’t put past him necessarily but for now these headlines are pretty sensational.

Everybody is protected by the fifth amendment regardless of citizenship status or if they are here “legally” or not. We’re all entitled to due process and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure so long as we’re standing on American soil. Running after families just minding their business and demanding papers please is far fetched. Going after already established criminals however is a lot easier and low hanging fruit. And I’m not talking about people who’s only crime is being here illegally, I’m talking about people who are that + another crime. And sorry but I don’t feel sympathy for those people who make life harder for everyone else…

Even if they do go after everyone they don’t have the infrastructure in place to process people. The highest deportations happened under Obama (take that, hysterical pissing in their pants liberals) at 230k a year and the system was barely functioning and is further backlogged now than ever. How the fuck is trump gonna manage to deport a million a year?

He’s full of hot air. Hell deport criminals and claim a win.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

I would be honestly less concerned if I thought the administration would be successful in deporting people. I think you're relying heavily on "due process" here, when the reality is they can just accuse you of a crime, deny you bail, and then hold you pretty much indefinitely. You let the ones who can get lawyers out and you've pretty effectively filtered the population for wealth.

The Nazi death camps started as temporary internment camps with the intent to deport Jews eventually.

Then they just ended up with a whole bunch of people in camps with nowhere to send them and were like, "well, we might as well get some work out of some and kill the rest" and it sort of escalated from there.

Which with their "camps for the mentally ill, homeless, and drug addicted" and "deportation emergency" sounds alarmingly similar.

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

First sentence: unless he suspends the constitution

I’m not saying the rhetoric isn’t concerning, I’m saying he doesn’t have the machine set up to make it happen. Could it happen? Absolutely.

[-] m_f@midwest.social 39 points 2 days ago

Wrong community. This dystopia is about get real interesting, real fast 😬

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[-] dorumon@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Please deport me harder orange man.

[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well at least we're getting close to a somewhat interesting dystopia. /s

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago

You can't beat Trump's brand of fascism with spineless morally flexible subservient people. People are going to have to fight back do what they can. Dems are already rolling over in advance and some are going to fight with what resources they have. It is going to be rough.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

The dems are the wimpy kids who internalized being nice to their bullies will somehow earn them respect and show they are the better people. In reality their abusers only hold them in even more contempt and spit at them at every turn.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 175 points 2 days ago

Hey, anybody remember 12ish years ago when Alex Jones' worst fear was that Obama was going to use executive power to order the military to be deployed on American soil, violating Posse Comitatus, to massively round up and inter a bunch of Americans in FEMA reducation / death camps?

Anyone?

No one?

Whoo boy, growing up in a fundamentalist Christian household where I was the only one to go to college and everyone else became a Q Anon zombie sure was fuuuunnnnn!

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

With conservatives every accusation is just projection

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago
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[-] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Dear, dear. What has the world come to?

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