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Re-enable down-voting on slrpnk.net? (slrpnk.net)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/meta@slrpnk.net

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As you might have noticed, there is currently no option to down-vote posts here.

When Lemmy was much smaller there were some bad faith actors organizing down-votes on posts they didn't like and because a few down-votes already meant a lot this was quite effective (from their perspective) to shape the discourse to their liking.

These days our instance is bigger and we have also blocked the worst offenders (and will continue to do so), so I am wondering if we should re-enable down-votes?

Personally I think they are useful in some cases, but ideally the down-votes would not federate to other instances. This option however is not available in Lemmy, so it is either on or off.

I will make three comments below this, one you can up-vote if you are in favour of enabling down-votes again, one if you are against it and one if you abstain from making a decision on this.

Note to non-slrpnk.net members: please don't up-vote any of the below comments I make.

I'll leave this vote open for some days... and anyway: no decision is final and if it becomes a problem again it is easy to disable it.

Edit: If you have for some reason a strong objection and want to veto this, please comment below.

Edit: I enabled down-votes with the upgrade to Lemmy version 0.18. At the time of writing this it is 45 votes for enabling down-votes, 32 against enabling them, and 10 abstentions. Lets see how it goes.

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[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

I'd rather keep downvotes disabled because we can still remove bad posts (irrelevant, spam, harassment) through mod tools. Downvotes aren't a good tool for burying bad posts if it can also be used to also harass and brigade.

[–] ebike_enjoyer@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It looks like the admins at blahaj lemmy have or are working on a tool to implement downvoting, but have the downvotes weighted (the example mentioned on the thread was 5 downvotes = 1 upvote), in order to discourage brigading and other issues with downvoting. Not sure how tough this would be to implement, but it sounded like an interesting enough idea for me to want to bring visibility to it.

Personally, I voted to agree with the majority. I see the benefits of not having downvotes after spending some time here and on Beehaw, but I also think that it makes sense to include the option if most people want it.

[–] VenDiagraphein@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

I voted to enable because I think it's worth seeing how restoring downvotes goes, but if the feature gets abused to bully or brigade I'm all for turning them right back off. I also think that even though voting rules aren't really enforceable, it would be good to add voting etiquette to the instance wiki as a guideline to help discourage downvoting excessively, or for asking questions & other benign things.

Really I hope the ability is added to restrict who can downvote, or at least to disable federation for downvotes. That would be the best option imo.

[–] carbonbasedlifeform@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Not sure if this is possible on Lemmy, but on HN, users don't get the ability to downvote until (I think) their account is aged somewhat or their account receives a certain amount of points.