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Those non-violent protests shook them so bad they wanted to charge non-violent Quaker protestors with terrorism.

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I called for a massive peaceful protest that, occasionally, takes a shot.

[-] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

There's two episodes in the podcast Cool People who did Cool Things that talks about basically that in regards to the violent wing of the nonviolent civil rights movement. You need both.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A massive peaceful march from home to home of owner-class individuals. With a little occasional shots, as a treat?

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Heavily armed and peaceful

Ftfy

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Yes.
Otherwise the unarmed get shot by the police.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

We want public healthcare. This act of violins highlights the anger we feel. It doesn't bring us closer to a solution. But imagine the roles swapped. We continuously live in fear of getting sick and then going bankrupt and homeless because of it. But what about from the other side...imagine a wolf in a house eating his sheep dinner. Imagine that asshole dancing around and humping several wolfority mates every night having the time of it's miserable life....and suddenly that wolf peaks at the window and has a sudden realization... Sudden because he suddenly opened the window. It realizes that there's nothing but sheep outside, all looking at him thru the window. Goes up to the roof top and observes himself surrounded by million upon millions of sheep all looking directly at him. The wolf sees one fellow wolf nearby as the sheep trample him. The wolf listens to his friend's bones crackling into mush. So just close the blinds and have another sheep from the fridge? Or maybe address the impending problem?

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 2 days ago

This is why the ruling class pushes gun control so hard. Don't let them do it.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Protests mean nothing if it doesn't change how people vote.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What's funny is the majority of the country supported the war, at the time. Less than a quarter of polled citizens were against the war. (That's me! I was there!)

When polled now, the majority of the country claims they were against it at the time.

Echoes of the Civil Rights era, where at its peak, it was deeply unpopular, but the Boomers spent the last 50 years re-writing their own history to pretend they were always on the right side of history... only for Trump to make them feel safe in being racist again.

[-] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Who are you supposed to vote for when both parties drift right indefinitely?

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I see it differently; despite campaigning to attract cowboys Kamalla still wanted to cancel student debt, tax the rich, and legalize weed.

The old Democrats are dieing of old age, the young ones want Green New Deal.

If you elect 60 democrats you might not get single payer because only one of them has to object, but if you elect 60 Republicans you will get pure privatized healthcare and millions of people will die stupid unnecesary deaths because of it.

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[-] lukes26@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

I mean personally I do vote every election I can, but people did change how they voted after protests were ignored. The pro-Palestinian protesters and the uncommitted movement during this 2024 election had a basic demand they wanted met, that was ignored by the Harris campaign and some number of them didn't vote because of it. And yet a lot of people blamed the protesters for Harris's loss (of Michigan at least), even though that is literally changing your vote because a protest didn't get her to change her position.

And that's also skipping over however many people didn't show up because of other positions she changed, like healthcare, fracking, the border, etc. And I do get it, I know Trump will be so much worse, and like I said I did vote, straight Democrat down ballot like I always do. But if the point of a protest is meant to show that a group of people is unhappy and you're losing their support, having that group turn around and vote for you anyway means that you can just ignore protests.

And again, I know I'll probably need to keep saying this, I voted for Harris. But the fact that the lesson a lot of the DNC is seemingly taking from this is that they should go more centrist just boggles my mind, because the point of people not showing up to vote for her after they protested and were ignored is literally that going more centrist and ignoring your base will lose democrats elections.

It's no surprise though, the DNC receives a ton of corporate donations so why would they seriously support policy that hurts those donors income. Like Josh Shapiro condemning the killer and those who supported them, and thanking the police who caught him in PA isn't surprising when he received $10,000 dollars from UHG in 2023 (the second most of any candidate). This is what people mean when they say voting is pointless, even if you somehow voted in a senate of 100% democrats, a house of 100% democrats, and Bernie Sanders as the president, they wouldn't support a proposal for something like single payer healthcare because most of the other democrats in the house and senate get money to not support major reforms like that.

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