Lemmy language options are both confusing, and don't do what they're intended to do (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by downpunxx@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Granted, the warning says clearly "If you deselect Undetermined, you will not see most content", which places the onus on the individual user, as apposed to logic built into Lemmy on which posts/comments can be viewed, while also leaving it to each user to have to weed out alternate languages for their views which are incorrectly set. This is indeed leading to many posts simply not appearing (as designed and intended), which is less than ideal when trying to grow a user base/community.

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[-] astigma@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

If you're on desktop you can hold ctrl and make multiple language selections. I have undetermined and English selected.

As to why this is even a thing that needs to be set I have no idea either.

[-] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The intent is to label content by language so that people can easily filter out languages they can't read. The presumption that English, say, is the default language because the big websites are all US based doesn't really hold in the Fediverse, where a lot of users, historically, were from Europe.

But the feature's just kind of... broken right now, though.

[-] JohnEdwa@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Lemmy UI is terrible and as tagging isn't actually mandatory in Lemmy, most posts just fall under "undetermined".
Kbin has mandatory tagging - yay - but the list has maybe only like a dozen languages and I don't Kbin has the filtering implemented anyway. Though I have to say having Finnish as an option but no Swedish does make just a tiny bit happy.

[-] WheresYourShoe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has svenska.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if mandatory tagging is such a good idea. Et si vous mélangez deux langues dans un seul commentaire?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, as far as I can tell in the Lemmy UI there is no way to select a default post or comment language.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

you can hold ctrl and make multiple selections

Just to point that this is the default and "obvious" behavior for lists since the 90's (or, rather the 80's if you count Unixes GUIs). Yet almost nobody knows it for some reason (probably because it's not obvious at all, but IDK).

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yet almost nobody knows it for some reason (probably because it’s not obvious at all, but IDK).

That and I think in many cases people opt for the ol' box select when trying to select multiple options in a GUI, even if it's in list view.

[-] downpunxx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, that's what i'm sayin

[-] Ral@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I couldn't figure out how to make selections at all.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I still don't know how to do this or understand exactly what this feature does

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Either Shift + Click or Ctrl + Click, or Ctrl + Shift + Click. Pretty standard, although it's much harder to do anything on mobile.

As for what this does, who knows. I do sometimes get errors saying I can't comment because of language on a mobile app, however on the web page you can select the language. I have both Undetermined and English selected.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Hopefully this does get fixed soon. I like to browse r/popular and it's annoying reading a post and trying to figure out wtf it means before realizing it's from r/ich_iel. So being able to see the new feed but not have to think if I'm having a stroke or reading another language would be great

[-] tallwookie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

i've also noticed that sometimes if you're trying to do a text only post, not choosing any language at all will allow it to post whereas selecting a language will cause it to just hang/spin forever.