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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 84 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s just hype. They’re all overly invested so they have to manifest success.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ooh. I really like this theory

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

If you like that theory you should love looking into tech bubbles.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 74 points 4 months ago

Nvidia is in the business of selling AI hardware. They want to hype up AI so they sell more hardware.

This is a salesman trying to make a sale.

[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you ask the question "is this hype or not", l'd consider who is pushing the narrative and how much they have to gain from it and you'll probably find your answer.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

If you have to ask if it's hype or not, then it defaults to hype. Self-fulfilling prophecy

[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People hype dumb shit even when they don't gain anything from it.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Open .kkrieger to believe.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I'm sure the biggest AI hardware company can be trusted to be unbiased about this.

[–] x1gma@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Just as AI will replace developers, and then we have Devin. Also don't forget the artists that will be replaced, that'll happen just when it learns that humans have 5 fingers per hand.

It's all marketing for AI, by the afaik currently biggest supplier of AI hardware.

The whole hype will implode when AI itself implodes, not as the AGI singularity, but when the resource costs spiral out of control, and its keeps getting its own generated glop spoonfed

[–] simple@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hype talk, that doesn't mean anything. Nvidia is right in that almost every game will have AI upscaling though.

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this feels like a statement that they can later point to something like AI upscaling or filters and say "See, we're technically right!"

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Yep my first thought of this is as a technicality. One day every pixel displayed on your monitor has passed through some sort of upscaling or frame generation.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean... ai Minecraft already exists

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

And it is absolutely terrible as a game. Funny for a quick laugh, but I dont think thats what theyre talking about.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's probably already games where AI generated "every pixel", just not the code that displays those pixels... This headline only implies art, even though it's pretty clear they meant the whole game, code and all, and without seeing the whole article, we can't really effectively comment.

[–] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Probably both. But within 5-10 years it'll only be the realm of tech demos and indie games, not AAA

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's probably referencing the tech we already saw a few years back where the game would render incredibly simple untextured geometry, then the gen AI reskins it to look like a realistic video.

Or maybe someone's convinced him we'll make whole games out of Gaussian Splats

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

Fully differentiable rendering is a thing. You input a list of polygons and the AI renders it directly.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AI will eventually be given the task of creating a game based on prompts and it will be able to do that with minimal curation with considerations of other similar games and the consensus about them. It will be able to accomplish the entire dev in a fraction of the time of a conventional dev team of humans. This is probably 10-15 years away and will be the death of innovative risk taking games that come to be held in high regard.

What is emerging is AI upscaling that will eventually allow a game made 10 years ago to look new. Soon there will be extrapolative AI that can remaster something like Super Mario Bros or Goldeneye and make it into a modern gen graphics game regardless of what "modern" means.

AI can be a fantastic tool to ease the burdens of the game development process to decrease costs and time so smaller studios can focus on the core of what makes a game good. Unfortunately studios will integrate AI into the development process as they remove humans to decrease costs to an overall detrimental degree and the market will be flooded with mediocre derivative games that offer nothing of value in terms of experience.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This makes me feel like there will be a large group of retro gamers who will prefer the artisan, human-made games of the past, but ultimately a younger gen audience that won't know the difference or care.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

The younger gamers will only appreciate brain rot AI gen games because that is all they know.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If they mean AI upscaling, where you take a low resolution image then generate a higher resolution one then sure.

But it will be a while before they have full AI rendering, if ever. AI generation isn't super precise when it comes to details and for games precision usually matters a lot unless it's like a narrative game. You probably can't use an arbitrary but close color for an enemy for example or have health bars look close enough.

[–] SamboT@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Guys rule number 1 of the disinformation age... dont meaningfully engage with a post thats only a title and jpeg, especially if its playing on polarizing opinions or grand claims.

Dont let this crap prime you to come to conclusions you wouldnt have otherwise.