Yes? Is it a surprise that a Chinese company stores it's data on a Chinese server?

At least its not stored on american servers.

This is probably only a problem with the online version. In contrast to google and openAI they, like meta, let you download the model and run it offline, where they can't access any of this data I presume.

No.

As opposed to Microsoft, Google, .. NSA, or GCHQ servers. Or all of the above.

Your devices keyboard app has been collecting all of your keystrokes.

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

Run it locally then

They all do this...

Don't use hosted models unless you pay for your own server space and it is encrypted.

Don't be a fucking idiot.

Anyone using DeepSeek as a service the same way proprietary LLMs like ChatGPT are used is missing the point. The game-changer isn’t that a Chinese company like DeepSeek can compete with OpenAI and its ilk—it’s that, thanks to DeepSeek, any organization with a few million dollars to train and host their own model can now compete with OpenAI.

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

If you think the American companies do anything different you're not paying attention and simply believing the propaganda.

I trust DeepSeek Open Source if it allows me to copy and review it. I don't trust ~~Open~~AI like ChatGPT.

If I’m typing into the app, is that really collecting keystrokes?

Same as Chrome's magic bar, or android keyboard no ? So in the end, does USA doing it good because "democracy" (never ever with napalm) when China is bad because human rights violation (USA never did anything like this) ?

Not surprised at all why would I? Don't act like other AI services is privacy focused. It's all same. THEY ALL COLLECT DATA.

But good thing about is deepseek is you can run locally unlike Closed AI Chat GPT. No need to use shitty app.

other ai services do too. u might not realize it.

Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t

When you don't understand how a web app works. 🤦

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

Yes, that is how these generative AI imementations work.

Doubtful, since it's both open source and you can run it locally. This seems more like a smear piece.

HuggingChat is open source and lets you use DeepSeek. It also doesn't censor results like the main app (allegedly) does.

This is my total lack of surprise.

detective conan sure had a hard time cracking the case!

"The personal information we collect from you may be stored on a server located outside of the country where you live. We store the information we collect in secure servers located in the People's Republic of China," the privacy policy reads.

Oh the horror! Let's look at what our glorious spawns-of-techbro heroism has for us in store:

ChatGPT:

Claude:

So not only is your data "possibly" stored in one country, now there's a possibility of it being stored in many different countries. Where's the outcry for that?

Ok, so maybe your data being under the jurisdiction of another country is sus, right?

In another section about how DeepSeek shares user data, the company states that it may share user information to "comply with applicable law, legal process, or government requests."

OH MY GOD SOUND THE ALARM!

ChatGPT:

Claude:

So not only can your data be subject to the authorities, but it's also handed out to 3rd parties (mind you, DeepSeek does the exact same, so why is it any surprise?).

Not only does DeepSeek collect "text or audio input, prompt, uploaded files, feedback, chat history, or other content that [the user] provide[s] to our model and Services," ...

🤦... You get the idea now, bother yourself with the privacy policies of the respective contemporaries and CTRL + F to "User Content" or "User Input".. Same fucking shit.

Companies with AI models like Google, Meta, and OpenAI collect similar troves of information, but their privacy policies do not mention collecting keystrokes.

Yes, collecting keystrokes is probably the oddest thing here. To compare data farming giants with a decade and a half's worth of data collection to a startup in terms of data collection is so astronomically dumb.

I could go on but I'm bored now. Do your own research.

Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.