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This morning I noticed that an app was silently installed on my device. Android System Safetycore.

So what is this app for? Supposedly it is designed to blur any images that are sent to or from you the user.

Android Authority Article SnippetSensitive Content Warnings is another new Google Messages feature that Google is announcing today. It’s a feature that gives you more control over seeing and sending images that may contain nudity. Sensitive Content Warning blurs images that may contain nudity before viewing them, and it then prompts you with a “speed bump” that contains “help-finding resources and options, including to view the content.” When it’s enabled and you try to send or forward an image that may contain nudity, Google Messages will also show a “speed bump” that reminds you of the risks of sending nude imagery. - Android Authority

The feature seems to be geared towards google messages.

However why this needed to be a seperate app isn't really known. Why not just a feature within the google messages app? Google gives no explanation.

Another Android Authority SnippetWarnings check runs entirely on-device, it didn’t mention that it will actually be powered by an entirely separate app and not Google Messages itself. - Android Authority

Google claims it runs entirely on your phone. Whether that's true? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

According to my device, the app can have internet access restricted to it (via phone settings) implying that the app does have internet access. Any apps that dont have internet access wouldn't be in my settings list for restricting network access.

Here's the developer page. Not much in terms of detail going on there.

Here is the app on Play store with its further lacking detail and currently plunging reviews. Interestingly it seems the app has many good odd sounding reviews. Furthermore, all the new reviews are very negative. The app was 3.8 this morning. Plunging.

The whole concept of the feature isn't a bad one. However, I certainly dont wish for it to be automatically installed on my device as a seperate app. A feature that is supposedly for a messaging platform that I don't even have activated on my device.

I removed it myself as it can be uninstalled. It doesn't show up on play store by search, however you can look up the app link online and get a direct link to it. Which I put here.

Spyware? A helpful feature? I don't want it on my phone anyways.

(Yes this is a repost, I hope it isn't considered spam. Yes I did also delete the original one :/ . Goodnight 🥱!)

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Entirely on my phone?

Why did my firewall ask if I wanted to allow it internet access?

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[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 36 points 23 hours ago

Thanks for the post. I had it on my phone as well. A couple days ago the messenger app forced me to update, I wonder if they are related.

[–] Zefirpo@feddit.it 10 points 18 hours ago

Thank you! I wasn't aware of it! Un-installed now 😁

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In other news, Google wants to scan all your messenger images.

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[–] dbkblk@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

And then I praise microg / LineageOS

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I am using both and this somehow made it to my phone, wtaf

[–] BritishJ@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you have play services installed. You will get it.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I don't have it on a phone a with play services.

I'm also in the EU in case that matters

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 8 points 20 hours ago

I'm in EU and I have it. was able to uninstall though.

[–] dion_starfire@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have Google's Messages app installed? If it actually does what they claim on the tin, maybe it was only installed on phones with the Messages app installed?

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't, so maybe that's the reason?

[–] BritishJ@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well then, that's pretty impressive. I don't know the answer to that

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Seems other commentators outside USA are saying similar things.

If true, I wouldn't trust this app at all, because it just be breaking GDPR somehow

[–] BritishJ@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I have it and I am in the UK, we have our own GDPR after the whole Brexit thing. But someone would need to prove its breaking GDPR. To install it on the device isn't a violation of GDPR.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I have a Pixel 7a on Google Fi service running Android 15 in the US.

I don't see that app on my list of all apps nor when i search for it in the Play Store.

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[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why was this post removed from "youshouldknow" community?

[–] onyxjet@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That's a mistake on my end. I have it cross posted again.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't even appear to exist for me in the UK. Yay?

[–] thisismyname@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago

It didn't appear in my apps list and yet if I looked at the link to the play store it said it was installed... maybe double check you don't have it by looking it up on the play store as well. Fishy to say the least

[–] Toes@ani.social 15 points 23 hours ago

It's into the 2s now. Not ok to push something like this automatically. Should be opt-in.

[–] Tidesphere@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't appear to be on my phone or in the Google play store

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

Ot did on my phone (Ger Pixel 7 Pro)

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Do not want! But I don't see it on my phone, at least so far. Fairly stock Moto G series with Android 14.

[–] GreenAppleTree@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same phone, same OS. Try going to the last link from the post. That'll take you to the Store page. If it says "uninstall" then you didn't look hard enough. (Neither did I, tbh. I forgot to hit "show system apps")

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Thanks, it says "install" so I must not have it. Whew :)

[–] sajhino@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Wow, thanks for this. I do have it sneakily installed by Google to my phone, without my knowledge or consent. If that ain't malware behavior, idk what that is.

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Thanks, uninstalled

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago

As long as it just concern Google Messages I'm fine since I don't ever use that

[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Seems weird to have a separate app read sent and received messages? Is it poking holes in the Messages app sandbox?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Lots of apps are able to interact with your text messages. Many apps are able to intercept one time passcode messages when registering accounts for instance.

It's also not weird to separate this if they intend for it to be able to be used in other areas as well.

Just because it may be used only by Messages right now, doesn't mean that it's intended to only be used there.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

As far as I know, the apps are not intercepting the text messages for passcodes. The messages have a specific format and a hash to indicate which app they are targeting. It is up to the messages app to read the message and to forward the code. This design should not need to give the apps any access to your messages.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Is it on Android 15 only? I've been procrastinating updating.

[–] GreenAppleTree@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not. Showed up on my 14

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

It also showed up on my android 11 Reno z

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Yup, found on my phone yesterday.

It also claimed that i was part of the beta program, which is probably how they back-doored it in, so make sure you leave the beta program to keep it from coming back.

[–] stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

On my phone it was not installed (Android version 14). I even don't find it in google play store. Is this because of the Android version or are there maybe regional differences?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

I wonder if it's a 15 thing. I updated to 15 last week, and sure enough, it was in my system apps. Easy enough to install, but what the fuck. I really need to get myself a pixel and install GOS.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Is there not some flaw in this logic in that you are asked to decide if you wish to see a photograph before you have viewed it. Maybe we need an additional app on top of the Safety Core, called something like Android SneakPeek that lets you have a quick flash.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

It says no permissions required and has used no data on mine.

I froze it anyway because I didn't ask for it, but I don't think it's malicious.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz -3 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I don't see it on my dumb phone

[–] PullPantsUnsworn@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Your dumb phone is much insecure than a smartphone which has GrapheneOS or LineageOS. Your dumb phone certainly lacks secure 4G or 5G communication, cannot use e2e encrypted messaging platforms and cannot update firmware in case of security bugs.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 16 hours ago

Why would I need any of that, its only used for calls or SMS when I am out of the house. Anything important I can do on Linux.

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