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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

remember internet explorer?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

IDK if Firefox is better or worse to use, I just know I don't want to use a Google browser. So I use Firefox, like on my desktop.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Firefox, which has most of the desktop extensions also working on mobile.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I believe that apple restricted other browser makers to using safari mobile as a base. Not sure if that's true/changed, but I'm too lazy to look it up. So maybe take that with a helping of salt.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Cool, rare instance of my memory not being completely shot 👍

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is true in America. In the EU, Apple was recently forced to allow third-party browsers. But even in the EU, developing those third-party browsers will take time and money.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks! I knew about the EU rule, and I'd heard they're basically maliciously complying?

Also, off topic, funny that you replied to this at probably the exact same time I was reading one of your comments in a different thread. Was a really well thought out comment, and I appreciated your take. 👍

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hah yeah, Lemmy is a much smaller community than Reddit. I have started tagging users, and it’s surprising how often I see the same tags in the comments sections.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

It's kinda nice, we're big enough to have a fair amount of content, but small enough that it still kinda feels like a community.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is on Apple, unfortunately. Every browser on the App Store is a safari engine with whatever browsers skin on top, essentially.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought they lost the court battle about that and were told that they had to actually allow other engines, but I haven't heard anything else since then.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

You might be thinking about the EU court battle, and I believe they did finally allow other engines. I also haven’t kept up with it, so that could be outdated information!

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

Orion browser on IOS is compatible with firefox AND chrome extensions

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Been happily using Firefox and Firefox focus on Android for years. With unlock Origin on Firefox.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Libre wolf version is underway too!

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironfox is the hardened FF/mobile librewolf

[–] tpyoman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Recently moved to fennec, is ironfox better?

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, fennec is nowhere near as hardened/privacy/security focused

[–] tpyoman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thanks! I will swit h to ironfox.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really? The FAQ on their page states otherwise :(

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

maybe? I read it was being worked on. I'm maybe a bit too optimistic

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Maybe, maybe not -- but I'm discounting anything the UK government says on Internet-related issues, so long as they're trying to insert encryption backdoors into everything. For all we know, this is just an attempt to blackmail Apple and Google over the encryption thing.

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Please learn some facts about how the CMA operates before discounting it.

The CMA is independent from the government - it does not have a minister calling the shots.

The encryption stuff is coming from the Home Office, which is directly government controlled.

The CMA and the Home Office aren't working together at all - they don't even share an office.

This is not "the government" saying this. It's the independent competition and markets regulator known as the CMA which, whilst publicly funded, isn't run by the government.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They want you to use “apps” even if said “apps” don’t need to be more than a website

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s largely because the companies want to grab all of your telemetry data, which they can’t do in a browser. Putting it in an app allows them to gather whatever info they want, instead of being siloed inside of a browser.

[–] HappinessPill@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Also because most phones have operational system's that are more secure than Windows, so a app is a easy way to block everybody that don't fit a profile of optimal users and avoid problems/hacking.

Companies dream of a closed internet accessible only from a controllable environment.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

You can't datamine everyone and sell it off as completely as you can with an app running locally on the device. Browser apps are far less profitable across the board. It's all about money.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, I didn't realize this was posted earlier. Thumbnail gave the wrong impression.

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