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Tariff Isn't Tax on Other Countries?🤪 (lemmy.world)

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Next try telling him there's no God with an EKG. The same part of his brain will be activated, guaranteed. Not to dock religion. But US conservatism is a religious cult basically.

[+] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -7 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

So bring on the downvotes, but can anyone tell me what the alternative plan was to bring manufacturing back to the states? And wasn’t that always going to make things more expensive?

Granted, this is being done with complete reckless regard, and the effects could’ve been spread out, but what’s the alternative?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's a dead industry to an economy that doesn't need it anymore. The same way you don't kill your chicken, produce your own oil, make your own shoes, shoelaces, clothes...etc. That's how the imbalance of economies work.

What you don't understand is that Trump knows this, and he cultivated both hope AND fear in enough people to get him into office. His end goal is to force you into buying dumb shit that is made better elsewhere because him and his cronies can't sell it elsewhere for profit, and they own all of it. He's literally trying to force you into paying money to people who own dead resources.

Trump is the guy walking up to you on the street asking you to buy the watches he just "found in a dumpster". I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Democrats have been selling the promise of bringing back manufacturing jobs for just as long. The difference is they never had any intent on following through. Granted, the GOP didn’t intent to keep those promises either, but Trump works outside of that dynamic. So regardless of how badly this goes, to the common voter, this is going to look like Trump is the only one willing to follow through on his promised policy goals. By doing what both party’s always promised to do, he’s forced them to openly admit it was always a lie.

They may snag a few wins here and there, but I don’t see the Democratic Party ever making a full recovery from this. It’s a capitalist party, and they will always be subservient to capitalists. They’ll never be in a position where they can deliver on their promises to voters.

If a socialist and/or pro worker party manages to gain a foothold in our country’s electoral politics, they will peel off so many people from the base of both parties that they would completely dominate American politics. Both parties know this, and that’s why both of them are working to ban ranked choice voting and suing leftist candidates off of the ballots.

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[+] AidsKitty@lemmy.world -15 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

It's not that simple and presenting it as such is disingenuous. Your fellow employee asked an important question, why cant we produce our own stuff? Relying on a frienemy to manufacture what your country needs to function is an extreme oversight of national security. Europe is experiencing that lesson as we speak.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Assuming the theory that tariffs pushes local manufacturing is true: We could produce our own stuff, but it takes time between the institution of the tariff and when a factory starts producing , so there's still going to be a lot of expensive stuff in the mean time.

More expensive steel (for example) means lots of things like cars get more expensive, which means fewer people can afford them...which means fewer cars to produce...which means less need for related industries (textiles, plastics, rubber, etc.), which (in general) means fewer employees needed to build those cars and supply those related industries....which means more people with less money....which means those people are going to buy fewer things, which means less money for all of the other businesses... and so on. It just spreads. Everything depends on everything else.

You can't just build a factory and start producing say, steel, overnight. And what happens if the tariff is dropped right after you finish your factory? You're going to get hosed, so it's a huge risk - especially with someone as inconsistent as Trump.

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